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protofeathers, dermal thingies, and wrinkles

BRUSH@UConnVM.UConn.Edu wrote:
>     1. In our opinion the structures on Sinosauropteryx are not feathers in
>  the sense of any modern feather morphology. The might represent some sort
>  of protofeather, but homology can only be established by internal and
>  perhaps molecular evidence. Microscopic work, both SEM and perhaps TEM
>  of thin sections would help.
>      They may be an epidermal structure that supported a crest or some
>  other structure. In this case, they would be derived from alpha-kertain
>  and not a feather homologue.
>      They might be dermal in orgin, and not extend above the surface. They
>   could have been involved in maintain body shape. If they are dermal it is
>   likely that they were collagen and, again, not a feather homologue.

 and Ralph W. Miller "Gigi Babcock" <gbabcock@best.com> said:

> Stephen Czerkas <snip> Based on his evaluation of Carnotaurus and "mummified"
> duckbill remains, the thin skin would have formed many wrinkles, as you see
> on reptiles today.  Stephen Czerkas also presented his interpretation of
> "the Sternberg duckbill from Wyoming," concluding that duckbill dinosaurs
> had tall neural spines along the back and robust dorsal neck ligaments (to
> support the heavy head), indicating that the neck was very deep and heavily
> muscled, like that of a horse.  

so we have dinosaurs like hadrosaurs with thin, wrinkly skin thats bumby
like a gila monster and neural spines down the back, dinosaurs like
ankylosaurs with thick, wrinkly skin and bumbs like a Gila monster, and
then small thin-skinned, wrinkly, bumpy, bushy, and prickly-skinned
Goodness, when did birds (which are thin-skinned,
have time to lose the bumpy scutes?  Should they be checking the rest of
the animals' remains to see if the body texture is smooth or bumpy?
Gods-what if the big guys like sauropods had bristles-like a long fuzzy

           Betty Cunningham  
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