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And don't forget what
>GPaul said in PDW that it may be possble that Herrerasaurus had armor
>and also the Ceratosaurus armor was a reevolution or reoccurance of this
>lost trait since all dinosaurian relatives have armor.
Coria told me a few years ago that Herrerasaurus does have armour.
>> This is patently ludicrous! Ornithomimids has a far more
>> manus, and no one argue the homology of their manus! Again you
>> homology a priori of a phylogenetic analyses.>>
>>Sorry, the ornithomimid manus is nothing like as specialized as a
>>manus. "Far more specialized" is going off the deep end.
> Come on Dinogeorge the therizinosaur manus is not as specialized as you
>claim and obviously in early forms the manus is same as the typical
So Ornithimimids have reduced metacarpals (with MT 1 being very short and
robust, MT II, robust and MT III very very reduced) and super elonganted
>> The feet show clear signs of being secondarily quadradactyl
>> and Dong 1993).>>
>>Nonsense. The signs, if any, are not clear at all.
> Geez the signs are very very clear. The typical therizinosaur pes is
>not at all like prosauropods and does show signs of rebroadening as
???WHAT, four toes on the pes of segnosaurs, 4 toes on the prosauropod.
Aw yes, segnosaurs are nothing like a prosauropod.
>> Retroverted pubes are present in some maniraptors, and anyway
>> in this case, possibly related to herbivorous habits and are thus not
>> excluded from the possibility of convergence.>>
What about the ilia? They are diffenatelly not like a theropod. The cranial end
flares out, the ilia are very far apart. The ilia flare just like sauropods.
What Theropod has a flaring ilia?
> Homolougus to Ornithiscian pubes?! No way. They resemble dromaeosaurid
>pubes to a T with the degree of retroversion, structure of the pubic
>foot, the small ventral ilia process, the musclatore ( short and compact
>not like ornithiscians but like dromaeosaurids), and the laterally
>compression of the pubis.
Oh, I must be blind. What Dromaeosaurid are you looking at?
The pubis of dromaeosaurids/has a ditally espanding boot, segosaurs have a
proximally expanding boot. The ischia touches the pubis in segosaurs, in
dromaeosaurids it does not. The pubes do not look like each other, nor th
e ischia, nor the ilia.