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Re: Paradoxically temporal

About this "ability to mate' definition........there are species such as the
Hawaiian goose where the surviving populations are so small and so interrelated
that breeding is not always viable.
The last of any species for that matter- breeding can NOT occur.  Such as the
last Carolina Passenger Pigeon in captivity -it remained it's own species even
though it had no ability to mate with it's own species.


Allan Edels wrote:

>     I was saying that there are problems with OTHER definitions, such as the
> 'Ability to Mate' rule, and I gave examples of exceptions (where
> inter-species mating results in viable, fertile off-spring...).
>     Sorry about misleading you..
> >In a message dated 98-07-25 04:23:50 EDT, edels@email.msn.com writes:
> >
> ><< This definition for speciation fits best, considering all the problems
> > with other definitions:  E.g. Ability to mate - Tigers and Lions are
> > separate and distinct species, yet they can mate, and their offspring
> > (Ligers, and Tigons) occasionally can sucessfully mate as well.  (By
> > sucessful I mean resultant offspring). >>
> >
> >I have yet to see two fossils mate successfully and/or produce a viable
> >offspring. How, then, do we talk about species for fossils?

           Betty Cunningham
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