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Re: Pure predation



Michael Teuton <tons@logicsouth.com> wrote
>Patrick Norton <ptnorton@email.msn.com>
>>Roger Stephenson  wrote:
>>
>>>I think that this point can be argued endlessly, if we so choose. I think
>>>carrion should be considered rotten meat, not just dead<
>>
>Pat wrote:
>>Huh?
>>
>"carrion"
>>From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)
>Carrion \Car"ri*on\, n. [OE. caroyne, OF. caroigne, F. charogne, LL.
>caronia, fr. L. caro flesh Cf. {Crone}, {Crony}.] 1. The dead and putrefying
>body or flesh of an animal; flesh so corrupted as to be unfit for food.
>They did eat the dead carrions. --Spenser.
>
>>From WordNet (r) 1.6 (wn)
>carrion n 1: dead and rotting flesh; unfit for human food 2: the dead and
>rotting body of an animal
>
>"putrefying"
>>From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)
>Putrefy \Pu"tre*fy\, v. t. [Written also putrify.] [imp. & p. p. Putrefied;
>p. pr. & vb. n. Putrefying.] [F. putr['e]fier; L. putrere to be rotten
>+ -ficare (in. comp.) to make; cf. L. putrefacere. See {Putrid}, and {-fy}.]
>1. To render putrid; to cause to decay offensively; to cause to be
>decomposed; to cause to rot.
>2. To corrupt; to make foul.
>
>Private suits do putrefy the public good. --Bacon.
>
>They would but stink, and putrefy the air. --Shak.
>
>3. To make morbid, carious, or gangrenous; as, to putrefy an ulcer or wound.
>
>
>
>While it would seem nit picking, the distinction between carrion and dead
>animals is not so semantic.  Many animals are killed before eaten.  That
>does not make them carrion.  Many are eaten after they are killed or (yuck)
>being killed.  Animals that are killed can become carrion if given enough
>time to start to rot.  Animals accidentally killed or who die a natural
>death become carrion if something(s) don't come along and eat it before it
>starts to decay.  It would seem that to be carrion, the flesh must start the
>process of putrefaction.  

Oxford English Dictionary defines Carrion slightly differently.

1) A dead body; a carcass
2) Dead putrefying flesh
.... other unrelated meanings

So according to OED putrefaction is not really necessary to call a dead
animal - carrion.

Gautam Majumdar                 gautam@majumdar.demon.co.uk