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I stand corrected: "dino" chimpanzees are as nasty as humans! :-)  I spoke
with a zoologist uncle
Of mine over the weekend & he confirmed that chimps do (in fact eat meat) &
ARE known to
Commit cannibalism.  Hey, wait: I'm a scientist & I just admitted I was
mistaken!?  :-)

   On a dinosaur subject, is the "bite mark" on Sue confirmed or is it an
Internet Legend?  IF it
Is true, what is the current thinking about the bite?


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Raymond Ancog [SMTP:rayancog@pacific.net.ph]
        Sent:   Saturday, November 20, 1999 4:39 PM
        To:     dinosaur@usc.edu
        Subject:        Re: EVIL FANGED CERAPODANS

        dbensen wrote:
        >Hey, and aren't lots of 'carnivores' known to eat vegetation for
        >'carnivory' and 'herbivory' are merely different gradations of

        Yes, like my dogs, who chew on blades of grass when I take them out
        walks. But I'd still call them carnivores, since (left-over food
from the
        dinner table aside) they are primarily flesh-eaters and secondarily
        plant-eaters. Though foxes are catholic in their choice of food.

        There was an article a few years ago, in the AMNH's own Natural
History, of
        (red?) squirrels preying on baby rabbits (shudder). And of course,
who can
        forget the picture of rats scavenging on just about anything?

        Dwight Stewart wrote:
        >   I think the terms carnivore and herbivore are meant to convey
        >dietary habits.  Chimps ocassionally eat
        >termintes, but that hardly makes them omnivores.

        Jane Goodall has documented cases of chimps eating antelopes,
monkeys, and
        even (more shudders) baby chimps, the latter apparently due to
fights over
        dominance. These make me omnivores, by my account.

        Which reminds me, is there a case of baby or juvenile dinosaur
        turning up in the abdominal cavity of an adult? This has been
documented in
        ichthyosaurs, where some skeletons are those of young awaiting birth
        others apparently those unlucky indivuduals that were eaten.

        Raymond Thaddeus C. Ancog
        Mines and Geosciences Bureau