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confusing crests and ?Cyprusians
Title: confusing crests and
Two replies to posts:
Oops, nomenclatural confusion arises. Good reason
why. The tibiofibular crest (of the distal femur) in birds is a
different structure from the fibular crest (of the tibial shaft; and
associated structures) that is present in theropods (including
birds). The former structure has only been commented on by
paleontologists and a few ornithologists. The latter structure
is what Muller (and Streicher) published 5+ papers on in scattered
journals/books from 1985-1992ish. Zimmer's book is
"At the Water's Edge," IIRC.
"Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:00:40
From: "Matthew Bonnan"
Subject: Re: tibiofibular crests
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For a functional perspective on the tibiofibular
crest, check out:
G. B. Muller. 1990. Developmental mechanisms: a side-effect
hypothesis; in M. H. Niteki (Ed.), Evolutionary Innovations.
For a popular account, read Carl Zimmer's excellent little book ...
whose name I now forget! Arrg! Anyway, it is something
like: Fish With Fingers and Mammals with Fins, or some such
derivation. If someone on the list knows, please post. It
is an excellent book.
Later for now,
I figured that these guys had circulated this e-mail around the
globe, given the form letter. I got the message a few weeks ago
and had a brief conversation with the SBZs. I don't see
anything that is clearly fossil in those pics; looks like mudstone or
something (my non-geological background is evident). They
wanted a voucher or something verifying that these are fossils (no, I
did not oblige).
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:45:21 -0500
From: "TRUETT GARNER" <DINOBOY@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: unknown animal ?
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Has anyone on the list heard of S.B.Z.
Investments Group , from Nicosia,
Cyprus ? Particularly a Dr.Oleg V. Pyntikov ? I received an email
zip file attachment from these people , asking if I could identify
remains in the photos on the zip file . Haven't opened the zip yet .
suspicious .... why ask a paleoartist to identify fossils , when you
paleontologists to do so ? Please reply off-list . Meanwhile , I'm
think about opening the zip file .
John R. Hutchinson
Department of Integrative
Phone: (510) 643-2109
3060 Valley Life Sciences Bldg.
Fax: (510) 642-1822
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-3140