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Re: dinosaur synapomorphies

Yes, I know about the Novas paper, but which of his listed dinosaur synapomorphies do other workers find the most convincing?
Three or more sacral vertebrae is one of his listed synapomorphies, but I don't find that very convincing (especially if Staurikosaurus has only two; other exceptions??). And an open acetabulum could have also arisen twice, once in ornithischia and once in saurischia.
Are there any good synapomorphies away from the back area (hind limb & pelvis) of the animal, especially in the skull? I remember someone suggesting that "elongate vomers" could be a dinosaur synapomorphy, but that sounds so vague. Does anyone have specific information on this or any other dinosaur skull synapomorphies?
Thanks, Ken Kinman
From: "Jaime A. Headden" <qilongia@yahoo.com>
To: dinosaur@usc.edu CC: kinman@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: dinosaur synapomorphies
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT)

Ken Kinman wrote:

<I would like to see a discussion of some of the
synapomorphies that unite dinosaurs, and would
especially like to know which are regarded as the
strongest synapomorphies (least likely to be

  Novas, F.E. 1996. Dinosaur monophyly. _Journal of
Vertebrate Paleontology_ 16 (4): 723-741.

  Best discussion of the complete list of
synapomorphies (including *Eoraptor* and
herrerasaurids/staurikosaurids) of Dinosauria.
Includes comments on the evolution of the hip, which
is the most intrinstic dinosaurian innovation, and the pes.

Jaime "James" A. Headden

"Come the path that leads us to our fortune."

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