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It doesn't matter the etymology of the names... Being so litteral, we will
have to change all Systematics. Pandas are herbivorous, so let's delete
Carnivora . Gorilla was used by Punic Hannon to describe a kind of "hairy
women" that probably were chimps, so Gorillas will have to receive another
name. And Primates are not the Superior Mammals, so let's change this name
too.

Joao SL
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Kinman <kinman@hotmail.com>
To: <ELurio@aol.com>
Cc: <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: No Subject


>
> Eric,
>      I agree with you that birds should be removed as a separate class,
> creating a paraphyletic Reptilia.  If strict cladists want to combine them
> to achieve holophyly, that's okay too (after all, I do this informally by
> including a marker for birds in the reptile classification).
>      However, among the many different concepts and classifications of
> Insectivora over the years, almost all of them have been polyphyletic.
> Removing tenrecs (or any other "insectivorous" group) to eliminate
polyphyly
> is a totally different matter.  Noone (cladist or eclecticist) wants
> polyphyletic groups.
>      "Insectivora" is almost as confusing as "Herbivora" would be.  The
only
> reason Carnivora is okay is because a lot of unrelated groups have not
been
> put into it.  There are carnivorous marsupials, but they are so clearly
> "unrelated" to eutherian Carnivora, that the later has never been treated
> like a wastebasket the way "Insectivora" has.
>                    -------Ken Kinman
> ********************************************************
> >From: ELurio@aol.com
> >Reply-To: ELurio@aol.com
> >To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> >Subject: No Subject
> >Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:15:04 EDT
> >
> >
> >When I asked why it was decided to change the name of insectavora,
> >
> >qilongia@yahoo.com writes:
> >
> ><< Because Insectivora includes tenrecs, which are
> >being excluded...>>
> >
> >When I objected to Birds being described as still being reptiles, I got
> >slammed. BTW, insectavores are monophylitic at least as around the area
> >around the KT Boundry....
> >
> >eric l.
> >
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