What are the short necked hadrosaurs and what are the long necked ones?
Back in August of 1998, I had asked Greg Paul (on list) some questions concerning the printing of his profile reconstructions of herbivorous dinosaurs that ended up in the DinoFest International proceedings (from 1996 - printed 1998 to the Phila. DinoFest). The following is the more precise version of the questions and answers (after some Dino List conversations).
>> 1) What precisely were the silhouettes of the hadrosaur necks
>> supposed to represent - a flap of skin (as some artists have put on
>> the back of _Parasaurolophus_'s head and neck), OR a 'withers'-type
>> neck (as mentioned in Sam Girouard's post)?
>> 2) What were these ideas based on?
>> I have had answers to both these questions:
>> 1) a 'withers' type neck and
>> 2) based on fossilized skin impressions (including nuchal ligaments).
>> I still say that SOME of the reconstructions look silly to me - remember
>> I grew up starting in the 1950's, so I've seen several variants of
>> reconstructions throughout the years. Also, remember that I'm from Phila.,
>> where I have had close contact with _Hadrosaurus folkii_ and _Corythosaurus_
>> at ANSP since 1985 (and actually since 1958 in their original mounts).
>> Naturally, I think that I know what a hadrosaur ought to look like. :-)
>> Looking over the reconstructions in the publication, I LIKE the thick
>> neck with _Shantungosaurus_, _Saurolophus_, _Anatotitan_, _Kritosaurus_, and
>> _Edmontosaurus_. I DON'T LIKE the neck with _Ouranosaurus_,
>> _Tsintaosaurus_, _Corythosaurus_, and _Parasaurolophus_.
>> Essentially, I find that the longer-necked morphs don't look as good as
>> the shorter-necked morphs - AT LEAST TO MY ADMITTEDLY PREJUDICED EYES.
The two Mummifed Edmontosaurs have what may be considered a neck that is in between the two types you suggest.
This would make sense to me – that some forms might be in-between the 2 major morphs.
AS AN ASIDE: Due to new virus software on my PC – several messages from the DML have apparently been quarantined. I checked in the DML Archive and I did not receive the following messages (Note that the last two may just be delayed):
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Subject: Re: Hadrosaur Appearance
Subject: Do not open "A Funny Game" (I did not get the referenced email either).
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Everyone would be well advised to update your virus scanner, and rescan your system.