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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Pharris" <npharris@umich.edu>
To: <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:50 PM
Subject: Lu/Lü/Liu


> I am aware that "Lu" and "Lü" are different.  My question is, is "Liu" merely 
> the pinyin transcription for "Lü", or are these distinct as well? 
> Nick Pharris
> Department of Linguistics
> University of Michigan

They're all different. The Pinyin and Wade-Giles transcriptions of <lu>, <lü> 
and <liu> happen to be the same. Note, however, that things are not so simple 
after Pinyin <j> (= WG <ch>), <q> (= WG <ch'>), <x> (= WG <hs>) and <y> (that 
is, alveopalatal and palatal consonants):

Pinyin  Wade-Giles

ju         chü        (*not* equivalent to <jiu> = <chiu>)
juan       chüan
jue        chüeh
jun        chün

qu         ch'ü        (*not* equivalent to <qiu> = <ch'iu>)
quan       ch'üan
que        ch'üeh
qun        ch'ün

xu         hsü        (*not* equivalent to <xiu> = <hsiu>)
xuan       hsüan
xue        hsüeh
xun        hsün

yu         yü
yuan       yüan
yue        yüeh
yun        yün

I hope this helps,

Piotr Gasiorowski
School of English
Adam Mickiewicz University
Poznan, Poland