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Re: Questioning the Validity of Hypsirophus discurus
couldn't have said it better myself ;-)
>>> "Jaime A. Headden" <email@example.com> 01/15/04 22:16 PM >>>
Tommy Bradley (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote:
<I hope my frequent e-mails aren't bothering anyone, but, I have another
question. I know that some of the material of _Hypsirophus discurus_ is
now referred to _Allosaurus fragilis_, and that some other species of
_Hypsirophus_ have been made synonyms with species of _Stegosaurus_.
Well, is _Hypsirophus discurus_ completely synonymied with _Stegosaurus_?
Or is the meager material (2 dorsal vertebrae, caudal neural arch
fragment) still retained under the name _Hypsirophus_?
The simple version of this question would be thus: _Hypsirophus_ =
And if _Hypsirophus is still retained, then can anybody clue me into the
meaning of the species name, _discurus? I know there is a Parrot with the
same species name, and I think it means "Racquet-tail" but I would
appreciate some confirmation.>
To potentially interrupt Ken Carpenter on this subject, I will find a
way to answer these questions.
1) Historically, *Hypsirophus* was included in *Stegosaurus;* a portion
of the holotype, the neural arch fragment, was referred to *Allosaurus,*
making the hypodigm of *H. discurus* polyphyletic.
2) No, apparently *Hypsirophus* may be valid on it's own. Carpenter
(1998) and (2001) contend the taxon is distinguishable from *Stegosaurus*
specifically. Geologically, it occurs in the uppermost Morrison, whereas
*Stegosaurus* is restricted to the middle, and *Hesperosaurus* to the
3) _discurus_ means "disk tail" in Greek, and is a reference to the
disk-shaped centra of the dorsal vertebrae, wich Cope (1878) beleived
belonged to the caudal region.
Carpenter, K. 1998. Vertebrate biostratigraphy of the Morrison Formation
near Cañon City, Colorado. (in Carpenter, Chure & Kirkland, eds., _The
Morrison Formation: An Interdisciplinary Study_). _Modern Geology_ 23:
Carpenter, K.; Miles, C.A.; and Cloward, K. 2001. New primitive
from the Morrison Formation, Wyoming; pp. 55-75 in Carpenter (ed.)
Armored Dinosaurs_ (Indiana University Press, Bloomington &
Cope, E.D. 1878. A new opisthocoelus dinosaur. _American Naturalist_ 12:
Jaime A. Headden
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