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Re: nomen conservandum
Apologies for the delay in this
In answer to question 2 below, the type specimen of
Cetiosauriscus stewarti is actually a decent pile of
bones. Most of the tail, pelvic girdle, left
hindlimb, right forelimb and rib fragments. I
presented on the specimen at SVP 2003 (Heathcote &
Upchurch), and do look out for a paper next year.
Redescription of the type specimen and a phylogeny
incorporating C. stewarti into the Sauropoda.
I can't help much on question 3, but try the Upchurch
& Martin 2003 JVP article (I think - don't have it to
hand) for a starter on Cetiosaurus. A Web Of Science
search for that paper should give you a list of papers
that have cited Upchurch & Martin, for any more
Hope this is of some help. Normal service will be
resumed as soon as NTL deign to connect us!
Michael de Sosa <email@example.com> wrote:Hey
Some of you may remember me from my sporadic posts
back when I was an
undergrad at Cal (Go Bears!), most probably not. I'm
out of the field now
(hey, I was a third author, that counts as being in
the field!) but still
retain my childlike enthusiasm for dinosaurs and paleo
in general. Anyway,
I'm back now after a couple months spent browsing the
archives. Lots has
changed! But a lot stays the same, also. Anyway, as
you may have guessed
from the fact that I'm talking right now, I want
something. At least, that's
what my parents would think.
I know that in recent years a couple of familiar
dinosaur genera have been
named nomen conservandum with neotypes by the ICZN,
because they were in
danger of becoming nomina dubia because of crappy type
specimens or what
have you... including Iguanodon (neotype: I.
Coelophysis (neotype: Ghost Ranch stuff), and
(neotype: C. stewarti??).
I also heard that Cetiosaurus was being nominated with
C. oxoniensis as a
So my questions are three:
1) Has the heroic ICZN come to the rescue of any other
2) What happened with Cetiosauriscus anyway?
3) Did they do anything with Cetiosaurus (not -iscus)
yet? Haven't found
anything on this list to indicate they have. Is it at
least on the short
Mike de Sosa
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