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Re: Stegosaurus preparation photos take two...
I think after Scott post there's not very much else to say...
Paleontology is not a pseudo science neither is a whimsical state of
mind. That we can add art to it is a completely different matter; the
bones are there to be studied scientifically. I understand though that
many field collectors with little paleontological training CAN have a
better eye than many paleontologists when it comes to spot fossils...
but that is completely another matter!
And regarding spelling... it is "Palaeontology" in these shores... what
On 26 Apr 2005, at 03:31, MKIRKALDY@aol.com wrote:
Reposted for Scott Hartman:
Hmm...this didn't go through on my end, so I'll send it again to see
works. Strange, there is no html or anything in it...
I know this is a touchy subject...so let me just leap right in:
I have personally met Kirby, and I can say that he was very pleasant
That being said, I do not know much about his personal life and/or
so I will forgo any conclusions at this time about his ethics, except
concur with Dan Varner than Big Al was indeed confiscated from his
team by the
I would, however, like to comment on the issue of being a
At our small museum in Wyoming I routinely hear people with no
qualifications refer to themselves as "paleontologists" simply because
they dig up
dinosaurs and are more knowledgeable than the tourists they are
working with. This
grates on me constantly, as I expect the word to hold some value. I
literal examination of the word makes it pretty obvious who a
is and isn't. -ology is defined as: a suffix; a branch of learning;
study of...; from Greek word logos. So...it seems fair to me that a
paleontologist is someone who studies and contributes to the science
paleontology. In much the same way that people who look at nudie
magazines are not
dermatologists, I don't think people who collect fossils as a hobby
(or even a
profession, no matter how valuable that service may be) are
regardless of how ethical they are, or how wonderful of human beings.!
isn't an insult to them; I just think that a person must participate
science to refer to themselves as a scientist. To me this means
to the peer-reviewed literature, regardless of educational standing
(although it is most common for those with Ph D's to do this
Now, some private collectors do indeed publish papers, or at least
presentations at SVP; while I may not think too highly of all the
people produce, they are at least participating in the science, so I
have any real objection to them referring to themselves as
the other hand, someone who simply digs them up (whether for vacation
vocation) does not automatically become a paleontologist, no matter
personally satisfying it may be to do so.
Again, I am not applying this claim to anyone in particular, but I do
it's important to attach meanings to words, and it seems reasonable to
that a person must actually do science before she or he can call
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