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Oops (was Re: Raptor Red and Heyday Of The Giants)
Oops. This was message was supposed to go to Mike off-list, but I sent it
to the DML by mistake. My apologies to Mike (and everybody else). It
doesn't contain anything too opinionated or offensive on my part - unlike
the majority of my off-list messages (and many of my on-list ones). ;-)
Mea culpa. Tim
It's nice to see a DML thread swing toward sauropods, instead of being
devoted to those groups that sauropods liked to step on.... ;-)
Yes indeed! I half-tried to persuade Darren to formally name it so.
But deep in my heart, I knew he was right not to :-)
Yep, sad but true. Good call on Darren's part.
I now feel that
-poseidon should become the default prefix for brachiosaurids, just as
-mimus is for ornithomimids, -pelta is a ankylosaurs, etc.
I'm not sure about the "Poseidon" suffix. Firstly, I like "Titan" better
as a suffix (_Giraffatitan_, _Lusititan_, _Gondwanatitan_, _Gobititan_,
etc). Secondly, although the Greek god Poseidon was associated with
earthquakes, he is more familiar as a sea deity - as the Greek equivalent
of the Roman Neptune. People may get the wrong idea that sauropods were
aquatic if they see all these sauropods named after "Poseidon". (I was
going to entitle one of my DML messages "Sauroposeidon Adventure")
> [...] - like _Borealosaurus_.
I would consider that a fine example of a specimen that should _not_
have been named.
The type material of _Borealosaurus_ does have one unique character: the
middle caudal has an opisthocoelous centrum. No other sauropod has this;
even the strong opisthocoely of _Opisthocoelicaudia_'s caudals peter out by
the middle of the tail.
As it happens, I've written a manuscript about the validity of
_Titanosaurus indicus_ if you'd like to see it. (I say the species is
valid based on caudal characters; but I don't refer _Antarctosaurus
septentrionalis_ to it.)
... and to stop naming more of the buggers! :-)