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Re: JVP 25(2): New Dinos, Birds, Discoveries



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaime A. Headden" <qilongia@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:17 AM
Subject: JVP 25(2): New Dinos, Birds, Discoveries

 My issue arrived today, so I can run off some quick summaries of the few
dino-paleo-related papers involved.

 First, the first dinosaur taxon from Hungary that is likely VALID:

Osi, A. 2005. *Hungarosaurus tormai*, a new ankylosaur (Dinosauria) from the
Upper Cretaceous of Hungary. _JVP_ 25(2):370-383. {Osi is written with a double
acute above the "o", and is pronounced as "eh" as in "her".)

That (approximately) would be spelled ö with dots. With accents it's like "eu" in "l'Europe heureuse". The difference is like that between "ship" and "sheep".


The animal is named for Hungary and Andráa Torma,

Typo for András ("AWN-drahsh").

It derives from the Czehbánya Formation, Santonia,

Csehbánya Fm, Santonian :-)

*Hungarosaurus* was included in the analysis of Vickaryous et al., from _the
Dinosauria, 2nd Ed._, with 63 characters (41 of which are cranial) and 17 taxa,
for a pair of analyses; the first was a con[s]ensus of 6 trees placing
*Hungarosaurus* in a polytomy with various nodosaurids, collapsing Ankylosaurs
more advanced than the outgroup *Scelidosaurus* but retaining ankylosaurid
monophyly anmd structure and *Edmontonia* and *Panoplosaurus* were sister taxa
(big surprise there....). The second analysis was restricted to cranial
characters and places *Hungarosaurus* as a nodosaurid more advanced than
*Struthiosaurus* but less derived than edmontoniines or sauropeltines, and
*Pawpawsaurus* is a basal edmontoniine; *Minmi* is an ankylosaurid more
advanced than *Gargoyleosaurus*.

Interesting...

 Yates, A. and C. C. Vasconcelos. 2005. Furcula-like clavicles in the
prosauropod dinosaur *Massospondylus*. _JVP_ 25(2):466-468.

Oho!

SAM 5153 probably represents a sternal plate;

Yet another rarely preserved bone!

The authors profer the only model rendered of the
accesory skeleton in this region, Paul, 1987, and reconstruct the clavicles
well separated from Paul's inferred episternum, which are omitted based on lack
of evidence.

Unsurprisingly.

This suggests that saurischians may have possessed articulated
V-shaped clavicles ancestrally, and it may also afford that reports of
*Segisaurus* and *Coelophysis* clavicles may not form fused furculae, but only
articulate as V's given the lack of preservation at the median.

Good to know!

 Company et al. describe a new species of ziphodont croc (the group that
includes notosuchians and *Sebecosuchus*) from Valencia, Spain,

Maastrichtian?

More linguistics:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaime A. Headden" <qilongia@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:13 AM
Re: Dinosaurs Breathed Like Birds

Hence the !oisan word n!weba becomes transcribed as
"nqweba" for the purposes of pronounciation (not everyone can form the "click"
sound of ! in !oisan (Khoisan, "Qoisan", aka the "Click" language),

Er... it's a whole group of click languages (Khoikhoi = Hottentots, San = Bushmen), and the kh part is just the standard English/French way of rendering the sound of the ch of Loch Ness. You may have been thinking of the San language !Kung...
*Nqwebasaurus* comes from Xhosa, a Bantu language in which the x is the lateral click, the sound that you make when you sit on a horse and want the horse to start walking.