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Re: Antonio's grant


I hooked up with the Academy (ANSP) just after the beginning of the renovations of Dinosaur Hall, both as a docent and as a DVPS member. That's almost exactly 20 years ago (I think it was May 19th, 1995 when I started). [Joanasaurus recruited me :-) ].

Unfortunately, family health concerns have restricted my participation in both activities over the last 6-7 years. (In addition, wholesale changes were made to the Docent program that essentially ignored my involvement, or just ignored me. I'll tell you sometime when I show up at a DVPS meeting again).

As to Peter's fundraising, I was aware that the cookie sales didn't seal the deal, and I knew about some funds from DVPS being included. The $5000 was to pay Eddie (and here my mind draws a blank - I DO know his last name, only just not now ["Banks"???]), the fossil collector who found the fossils, and recognized the possibility that he had something important. He showed them to Peter (who agreed with him that the bones were important), and he (Eddie) only wanted enough cash to cover his expenses.

My understanding (and Peter, please feel free to correct me), is that when the Academy (ANSP) saw how much interest there was in the new dinosaur, they included funds to cover the remaining costs [i.e. over and above the funds that you delineated] for _Avaceratops_ in their grant requests to re-build Dinosaur Hall, and made sure to have it mounted in the new hall. (I still remember it was many months after the hall opened that Peter's paper came out and the mount was unveiled). I believe the Academy used the interest in "Peter's dino" to drum up support for their grant proposals for the revamped Dino Hall - pointing out to the various agencies and funding groups how many people were willing to spend money without even seeing the "beastie".

Oh, well. Enough ancient history about dinosaurs - Oh, wait, that's our main purpose on this list!!! :-)


Allan Edels

From: Patti <pkv1@erols.com>
Reply-To: pkv1@erols.com
To: edels@msn.com, htomsirveaux@hotmail.com, frank@blissnet.com, dinosaur@usc.edu
CC: "Dodson, Peter" <dodsonp@vet.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: Antonio's grant
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:36:09 -0400

Frank & Allan:

I too am in agreement with this form of aid, or "sawbuck research" and I am willing to contribute same to receive that PDF.

Following up on your recitation of Dodson's fundraising efforts, when he offered the _Avaceratops_ specimen to ANSP, they told him they would exhibit it if he would come up with that $5000. He requested and received a grant from the Delaware Valley Paleontological Society (DVPS) for $700, as well as from individual members and other private donors, and the cookie sales ( $1000 worth, baked by family and friends), funded what was one of the first dinosaurs exhibited in the ANS (besides the NJ Hadrosaurus) and was the impetus to the development of their Dinosaur Hall.
- Patti

Patricia Kane-Vanni
Bala Cynwyd, PA  19004
pkv1@erols.com or paleopatti@hotmail.com

"Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but really great ones make you feel that you too, can become great." - Mark Twain
----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Edels" <edels@msn.com>
To: <htomsirveaux@hotmail.com>; <frank@blissnet.com>; <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Antonio's grant

Since Dr. Dalla Vecchia is seeking $863 US, if 100 of us each contributed the proverbial sawbuck ($10.00 US [I can tell you some of the history of this slang]), he'd have $1000.00 US, more than enough to take care of everything.

Please remember that Fabio did not ask for money, he merely asked where he might apply for some.

I'd like to be able to contribute more money, even directly to the people doing the work. My personal circumstances prohibit me from donating TOO much, but $10.00 every now and then is certainly do-able. If I had real money, I'd probably set up a fund or something to handle various grants that fall though the cracks. (There are some DML or former DML members who have done something similar). And, yes, I would like a PDF.

Around 20 years ago, Dr. Peter Dodson did something similar: His wife (and I don't who else) baked dinosaur cookies and sold them at an unrelated celebration that was being held outside of the Acadamy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia (ANSP). This was to raise money to purchase a specimen that he initially believed was a new species of _Brachyceratops_. He was going to make the species name "populi" - i.e. for the people. [He was trying to raise $5000.00 US]. This specimen is now known as _Avaceratops lammersii_ (or is that "lammersorrum"? :-)).

My 2 cents (or is that $10?),

Allan Edels

From: Tommy Bradley <htomsirveaux@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: htomsirveaux@hotmail.com
To: frank@blissnet.com, dinosaur@usc.edu
Subject: Re: Antonio's grant
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:15:29 -0400

Frank Bliss said:
Does anyone have a problem with this approach in this forum other than the fact that we can't do >this all the time?

Not at all. Just tell me where to send the money.

Passing the hat around for dinosaur research???

It beats spending all my petty cash on myself.

Tommy Bradley

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