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RE: Third claw for climbing was Re: Pro(to)avis

Jerzy Dyczkowski wrote:

Just a question: how helpful could be enlarged third claws of some theropods during climbing tree trunks?

If you mean the enlarged FOOT claw, then this is on the second toe. The idea that this claw may have been used for trunk-climbing (and perhaps originally evolved for this purpose) has come up before. (Did Sankar Chatterjee suggest this?)

I've heard that seriemas (modern predatory birds) have an enlarged claw on their inner toes, and it it is used in both predation and climbing. Though I've not been able to find an original reference which says *how* and *why* seriemas use these claws for climbing - after all, seriemas are perfectly good fliers, and they hunt on the ground, so why should they need to climb? I also believe that some phorusrhacoids had an enlarged inner claw (e.g., _Psilopterus_). In these birds, the claw is enlarged, but not hyperextensible as it is in deinonychosaurs.

It occured to me that some maniraptorians with enlarged claw on legs were rather slim animals, not build for wrestling big prey.

The enlarged sickle-claw on the foot could perhaps have also been used to dispatch small prey, that was pinned to the ground with the entire foot. By "small prey", I mean lizards, frogs, juveniles of other dinosaurs, various invertebrates...