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RE: sauropod lung collapse

This doesn't clinch the case, does it?   Plenty of large animals like
hippopotamuses and, yes, whales manage to spend quite a bit of time deep
under water without having collapsed lungs and do their breathing when
they're safely above water.

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From: owner-dinosaur@usc.edu [mailto:owner-dinosaur@usc.edu] On Behalf Of
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:58 PM
To: dinosaur@usc.edu
Subject: RE: sauropod lung collapse

testing is easy: stand vertically submerged in the deep end of a swimming
pool and use a snorkel with only 3 " above the water - you can hardly
breathe. Yet, your chest is only about 18" (or less) below the surface.

Kenneth Carpenter, Ph.D.
Curator of Lower Vertebrate Paleontology and Chief Preparator Department of
Earth Sciences Denver Museum of Nature & Science
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dinosaur@usc.edu on behalf of Jordan Mallon
Sent: Mon 1/9/2006 9:09 AM
Subject: sauropod lung collapse

I've heard it said time and again that large sauropods could not have lived
underwater because the pressure of the overlaying water column would have
crushed the lungs or at least prevented the animal from inflating them.  Has
this been tested and published anywhere?

Jordan Mallon

BScH, Carleton University
Vertebrate Palaeontology & Palaeoecology

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