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RE: Ruehleia again



Thanks Tim,

I look forward to see Galtons more detailed description. Maybe it turns out to 
be Plateosaurus again after all ;-),

Best wishes,

Michael


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:53:04 -0500
Von: Tim Williams <twilliams_alpha@hotmail.com>
An: Michael.Lange@gmx.ch
Betreff: RE: Ruehleia again

> Hi Michael
> 
> Sorry, no pdf - no nothing, I'm afraid.  What I sent to the list was from
> an 
> old word document I had, which I assume is correct.
> 
> Some of Galton's other diagnoses for prosauropod/plateosaur taxa have been
> contradicted by other authors (Yates, Moser) so I don't know how viable 
> _Ruehleia_ is.  I suspect we are both interested in this.  Galton was 
> supposed to publish a more in-depth description of _Ruehleia_ - but so far
> it has not come to fruition, AFAIK.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> >From: Michael Lange <Michael.Lange@gmx.ch>
> >Reply-To: Michael.Lange@gmx.ch
> >To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> >Subject: RE: Ruehleia again
> >Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:46:22 +0200
> >
> >Dear Tim,
> >
> >thanks for the info. I wonder if the characters you list are real 
> >autapomorpies of Ruehleia. Do you have a pdf of that paper, which you
> could 
> >send me,
> >
> >many thanks,
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >Datum: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 13:39:04 -0500
> >Von: Tim Williams <twilliams_alpha@hotmail.com>
> >An: dinosaur@usc.edu
> >Betreff: RE: Ruehleia again
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Galton, P. M. (2001). Prosauropod dinosaurs from the Upper Triassic of
> > > Germany. In: de Salas, C.A.S. (ed.) Actas de las I Jornadas
> > > Internacionales
> > > sobre Paleontologia de Dinosaurio y su Entorno.  Colectivo
> > > Arqueologico-Paleontologico. Burgos (Spain). p.25-92.
> > >
> > > _Ruehleia bedheimensis_ is a plateosaur sensu Galton & Upchurch (in 
> >prep.)
> > > with the following characters: three vertebrae in sacrum including a
> > > dorsosacral; ilium with a very large pubic peduncle and an extremely 
> >short
> > > anterior process; proximal end of the pubis with length of articular
> > > surface
> > > for ilium much longer than wide with a very short acetabular part 
> >(equals
> > > half width of iliac surface); manus with three large carpals with
> > > complicated (sic) proximal articular surfaces.
> > >
> > > Holotype: MB (Museum fur Naturkunde, Berlin), unnumbered (Ruhle von
> > > Lilienstern Collection): a reasonably complete skeleton, that consist
> of
> > > cervicals 4-10, dorsals 1-14, partial sacrum, about 20 caudals, right
> > > scapula-coracoid, both humeri, right radius and ulna, both manus
> > > (incomplete), both pelvic girdles, femora, tibiae and right
> astragalus.
> > >
> > > Locality: Romhild, 20 km from Schleusingen, SW of Hildburghausen
> (South
> > > Turingia, Germany).
> > >
> > > Age: Upper Norian (Trossingen Formation = Knollenmergel).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Michael Lange <Michael.Lange@gmx.ch>
> > > >Reply-To: Michael.Lange@gmx.ch
> > > >To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> > > >Subject: Ruehleia again
> > > >Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 19:29:20 +0200
> > > >
> > > >Dear List,
> > > >
> > > >can someone give me the exact reference of the paper Ruehleia was
> > > described
> > > >in and who did this. I think it was Galton, however, some years ago I
> >was
> > > >told that Adam Yates is going to rework the Thuringian prosauropod
> > > material
> > > >in Berlin offically. Maybe Galton was faster then.
> > > >
> > > >Best wishes,
> > > >
> > > >Michael
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