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Re: Phuwiangosaurus pics?



And that's why I'm looking for a skeletal restoration or pictures of the bones, 
and so on. I hear it was well represented, even with cranial remains found.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Taylor" <mike@indexdata.com>
> To: lmpm1234@verizonmail.com
> Subject: Re: Phuwiangosaurus pics?
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:02:49 +0000
> 
> 
> Luis Perez writes:
>   > >   > Anyone know of any Phuwiangosaurus skeletal images, or pics? I hear
>   > >   > that this sauropod from Thailand is particularly hard to place in
>   > >   > the sauropod tree [...]
>   > >
>   > > That's what was thought when it was first described.  Since then,
>   > > cladistic analysis of sauropods has come on by leaps and bounds, and
>   > > it now seems to be fairly stably established as a basal titanosaurian
>   > > -- e.g. Upchurch et al. 2004 (The _Dinosauria_ 2 chapter on sauropods)
>   > > recovers it as the most basal titanosaur and therefore close to the
>   > > brachiosaurid clade.  Don't forget that a _lot_ more titanosaurs are
>   > > known now than when _Phuwiangosaurus_ was named, so there's a lot more
>   > > context to evaluate it in.
>   >
>   > Ah, yes, then, this one would resemble something like perhaps
>   > Ligabuesaurus or Venenosaurus or something like that, pretty basal?
> 
> Perhaps.  Trouble is, the whole area around the base of
> Titanosauriformes, Somphospondyli and Titanosauria is rather poorly
> resolved (different analyses get different results in detail), so it's
> not wise to commit too strongly to anything's being particularly
> similar to anything else.
> 
> If you want to restore _Phuwiangosaurus_, it would probably be better
> to do it directly from the bones.  There are plenty of them: it's
> better represented than most titanosaurs.
> 
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