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Re: And now for something nearly as OT...

The references are to "Poeyana" 470-475 p. 9-14 and 15-21 respectively. It is indeed not easy to get hold of. The taxa are
Gigantohierax suarezi and Teratornis olsoni respectively.

More details available here:


Tommy Tyrberg

At 09:51 2007-08-21, you wrote:

I assume nobody can provide me with a copy of or the
names of the taxa named in (either would be fine) the
following two papers about dinos that *almost*, but
not quite made it through.

Might be of interest to Tommy et al. too, maybe:

Nuevos géneros y especie de ave fósil (Falconiforme:
Accipitridae) del Cuaternario de Cuba. 470-475:9
O. Arredondo y C. Arredondo
ABSTRACT: New genus and species of fossil bird
(Falconiformes: Accipitridae) from the Quaternary of
Cuba. A new genus and species of a large zized bird is
described based on a whole femur, a femur without the
distal portion, an ungueal phalange, a portion of a
tarsometatarsus and the diaphysis of another
tarsometatarsus, all of which were collected from
caves of the municipality of Caimito, La Habana
province. The ecological environment in which this
accipitrid lived, and its large zize, are analized. A
list is given of the extinct vertebrate fauna
associated with this species in two of the caves.

Nueva especie de ave (Falconiforme: Teratornithidae)
del Pleistoceno de Cuba. 470-475:15.
O. Arredondo y C. Arredondo
ABSTRACT: New species of bird (Falconiformes:
Teratornithidae) from the Pleistocene of Cuba. A new
bird species of the genus Teratornis is described
based on a complete femur and a distal portion of
another one found in Cueva de Paredones; on the distal
half of a femur from Cuevas Blancas, and on a
quadratum bone from Cueva del Túnel, all these
localities in La Habana province. The relevance of the
discovery of these genus and family for the Antillean
region is discussed, since these are birds known only
for the Northamerican Pleistocene. A discussion is
done on the presence of this bird in Cuba during the
Pleistocene, and a list is offered of the fauna
associated with this relicts in the studied localities

Because Suárez in 2004 (Caribb.J.Sci. 40: 120 "The
Identity of the Fossil Raptor of the Genus
_Amplibuteo_") implied the supposed _Teratornis_ of
Cuba was in need of revision, I wonder whether these
have anything to do with it.



PS: Regarding the "English" discussion, the notion of
'analiz'ation of the environment (first abstract near
end) is a notion almost worthy of a prize. Though the
good Arredondos would probably have to compete with
the one or other SpecWorld researcher...

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