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Re: What do you hate about dino-docs?
I remember there was some talk about Raptor Red being optioned to
studios but nothing became of it. I'm sure the rights have lapsed. I
haven't heard a thing about it in a long time. There are a few
dinosaur projects out there, but at the moment I'd be crazy to spill
the beans about any of them. Some really good ones, and some really
The good news is that producers are looking for something that has
not been seen before. So feathers seem to be winning favour. You
never know with this industry though. Many of you have been involved
in docs and movies before and you know how it goes. One minute things
are in and the next minute someone (with a bajillion dollars) brings
up an experience with a parakeet who bit his finger and will have
nothing to do with anything with feathers.
Ah..one more thing that bugs me about dinosaur docs...
If it has to do with Hell Creek we all know how the episode will end.
Heck, my wife stopped watching these shows, Hell Creek or not,
because they were so darn depressing. 9 times out of 10 they end with
the main "character " dying a horrible death so that we can see them
being dug up at the end!
Been to busy to see Sea Monsters, but I was up in Montreal at Damn FX
and got to see some final rendered shots. It looked nice! An
interesting choice for a main character!
On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Chris Harris wrote:
I remember a long time ago I saw an slide based advertisement at the
Sydney Imax Theatre saying
it was coming soon. It just showed the book cover (Raptor Silhouette
Maybe some Imax Production company has it.
Would make an interesting film - provided they didn't talk and have
lips. "Dinosaur" anyone? (sorry David!) ;-)
John Scanlon wrote:
Anthropomorphism is of course usually bogus, especially in stories
children (the old Disney paradigm), but at least some animals do
potentially have) life stories or episodes that embody real drama.
include: Life-or-death struggles among rivals or against predators,
courtship and parental care, other long-term recurrent interactions
individuals, exploration of unfamiliar territory, behavioural
response to novel resources or to overcome a specific handicap (e.g.
injury), social interactions (including play) among family members,
conspecifics, and individuals and groups of mixed-species
That's already plenty to build stories around without
unduly, as long as you pick a species/community that isn't too
boring. I can
only think of one example where this was really well done for
Bakker's 'Raptor Red' (some people automatically hated it because
Bakker, but people are like that). I wonder who owns the film
probably a good thing it wasn't filmed in the 90's, because now it
done with feathers!
Dr John D. Scanlon, FCD
Palaeontologist, Riversleigh Fossil Centre, Outback at Isa
19 Marian Street / PO Box 1094
Mount Isa QLD 4825
Ph: 07 4749 1555
Fax: 07 4743 6296
From: David Krentz [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: 14 November,
2007 2:42 PM
Cc: Brad McFeeters; Dinosaur
Subject: Re: What do you hate about dino-docs?
I'm curious about how many of you feel about the
anthropamorphism of dinosaurs. That is, turning them into
characters who are seemingly involved in a three act story
structure, often with human motives. Is a "relatable" animal good
for science? Could we care for a baby tyrannosaur who kills a
"peaceful" anatotitan? I suppose science has nothing to do with
anthropamorhism, and it may in fact be a dirty word, but its hard
to deny the fact that public interest is generated by such a
concession. Just food for thought.
On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Chris Harris wrote:
Brad McFeeters wrote:
"...If feathers were too expensive to animate, why not avoid
depicting maniraptors in the show? IIRC, they were only minor
"characters" in WWD anyway..... "
Come on, how many kids would jump up and down if they had left
These are "Raptors!", big scary things with teeth! Kids love that
stuff! How could they
leave them out.
Dino Guy Ralph wrote:
"...the result is that their sequels and
spin-offs perpetuate antiquated stereotypes of scaly coelurosaurs.""
I whole heartedly agree with you there - aside from budgetory
reasons there really is no excuse for this.
JP3 tried to do this while sticking to the original design, but
for continuity reasons they couldn't completely
cover them. Lets face it, while JP's raptors looked very good,
the science for there actual existence isn't very solid. I
consider the raptors in JP a cool movie monster rather than an