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Re: Archie a non-flyer? (was:Re: origin of bats/reply 2 to TMK)

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From: "Tim Williams" <twilliams_alpha@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:11 AM

I've wondered this myself. _Archaeopteryx_'s insular habitat might have had an impact on its morphology. Then again, birds with similar bauplans are found elsewhere (e.g., _Jeholornis_, _Jixiangornis_).

(Those, though, have a joint between scapula and coracoid, like *Rahonavis* and Ornithothoraces, and unlike *Sapeornis* and the confuciusornithids. They are not as similar to Archie as the long tail makes one think.)

How big did the Solnhofen pterosaurs get?

Estimated at 2.5 m wingspan in the rare, fragmentary adults...