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Re: Campbell's even crazier than a MANIAC? (archeopteryx climbing)
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Dann Pigdon <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Well, this settles it, it is a global phenomenon. Somewhere in the postgrad
experience, people are taught to never, ever admit they are WRONG (unless of
course it is a peer-reviewed setting). I had it thought it might be restricted
> > Googling "flying fox, soaring" brings up
> numerous hits.
> Soaring requires an updraft, so it's not really
> 'classic' gliding. Assisted gliding perhaps?
Yeah, sure thing, Dann.
> > It is a safe bet that any flapper vert has the
> physical capacity to glide
> > short distances, even if the behavioral phenotype may
> not demonstrate it.
> It depends on how short a distance you're willing to
> call 'gliding'. I suppose a brick can glide for
> short distances (close to the top of it's ballistic arc
> that is, where most of it's movement is
No, a brick can't glide, although one might make a good paleontologist, or
> I still doubt that finches can really glide at all. As
> David Marjanovic pointed out, they tend to fold
> their wings back and turn themselves into ballistic darts
> between active flaps. I suppose you can
> get away with that sort of rotund body plan if your mass is
> small enough.
That is entirely behavioral, as I am sure you are aware.