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RE: Avian origin questioned by John Ruben

That's it!  It does not appear to have been updated in light of more recent

-----Original Message-----
From: Danniel Soares [mailto:dannielsc@yahoo.com.br] 
Sent: 19 August 2009 23:58
To: dinosaur@usc.edu
Subject: Re: Avian origin questioned by John Ruben

john hunt wrote:
> I used to have a really useful link to a site that set out all of the
> competing hypotheses, evidence for and against and what further evidence
> required to support each one.  I can't find it and nor can google so I
> it has not been maintained.
> John

I think you may be referring to this site:


It's in geocities, so I guess it will not be there long, I've heard it 
will be shutdown, but I don't know.

The rest of the site has some texts by Elliot Sobber and some skepticism 
about cladistics, with someone's own cladogram proposed by other means 
than cladistics, but yet more specific than birds sprouting somewhere 
from the cloudy  thecodont limbus.

Danniel Soares