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RE: New Ruben Paper

> From: owner-DINOSAUR@usc.edu [mailto:owner-DINOSAUR@usc.edu] 
> On Behalf Of quailspg@frii.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:02 PM
> To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> Subject: Re: New Ruben Paper
> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090609092055.htm
> >From the article:
>   "For one thing, birds are found earlier in the
>   fossil record than the dinosaurs they are
>   supposed to have descended from," Ruben said.
> I've seen this statement many times over the past years. 
> Could someone please refresh the memory of a non-scientist 
> and explain why this idea lingers in current research.
Because if they acknowledge the fact that they are wrong, that blows away
one of the things that they consider a pillar of their argument. Much like
if they continued to regard dromaeosaurs or oviraptorosaurs as dinosaurs
would obliterate their argument; hence, at least some of the BANDits have
concluded that they are just primitive birds which happen to be convergent
on coelurosaurs.

The appropriate responses to this are <facepalm> and <headdesk>, I

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