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Re: New publication: Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods by Robert Gay
According to the text, they were deposited, but it just doesn't mention
where. However there's another facet to this. If this is going to be
considered an electronic work, then yes, it would need to mention where
the five required copies are deposited, but if it is considered a print
work, it doesn't need this and simply needs to be freely obtainable,
numerous, durable, and identical. Since there is a print version, naming
the libraries may not be an issue.
On 5/6/10 21:36, Dan Chure wrote:
Not meeting one of the requirements is not "a very minor
technicality". Were the 5 hard copies deposited or not? If they
were, what those institutions?
According to the ICZN:
8.1. Criteria to be met. A work must satisfy the following criteria:
8.1.1. it must be issued for the purpose of providing a public and
permanent scientific record,
8.1.2. it must be obtainable, when first issued, free of charge or by
8.1.3. it must have been produced in an edition containing
simultaneously obtainable copies by a method that assures numerous
identical and durable copies.
8.6. Works produced after 1999 by a method that does not employ
printing on paper. For a work produced after 1999 by a method other
than printing on paper to be accepted as published within the meaning
of the Code, it must contain a statement that copies (in the form in
which it is published) have been deposited in at least 5 major
publicly accessible libraries which are identified by name in the
From Gay, R. 2010.
"Those that are concerned about the naming of a new genus in this
format should not be. The availability and distribution requirements
are more than met—the relevant institutions have received a copy for
their records. In addition "Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods" will
remain available to all who wish to purchase it online, as well as
those stores that chose to carry it, for the foreseeable future—far
surpassing the availability of many other high profile publications
to those anywhere on the globe."
According to this 8.1.1, 8.1.2, and 8.1.3 are all fulfilled. The only
criterion not fulfilled is 8.6, and its due to a very minor
technicality; nowhere in this work are the "5 major publicly
accessible libraries" where the hard copies are deposited named. I
don't think that on-demand self publishing necessarily violates
8.1.3, on some contitions it might be, but a publication service such
as Lulu ensures that multiple individuals can order and obtain
"numerous identical and durable copies" at the same time.
On 5/6/10 18:49, Dan Chure wrote:
I have checked the website and Lulu clearly describes itself as a
"Self Publishing" business and one that publishes on demand. So it
would appear that Kayentavenatoir is not a valid taxon.
Brad McFeeters wrote:
I'm not sure if Rob is a member of this list, but the book seems to
have been published for a few days now, so I'll go ahead and share
Summary: Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods contains two papers on
the poorly studied late Triassic and early Jurassic theropod
dinosaur fauna of North America.
The author discusses the evidence that has been used to support
cannibalism hypothesis in the late Triassic dinosaur Coelophysis,
and presents new evidence that disproves this commonly cited
In the second paper, the author names a new genus and species of
theropod dinosaur from the early Jurassic Kayenta Formation of
Arizona. The new taxon represents the oldest yet-known example of a
Tetanuran theropod in North America.
For those interested in the paleontological history of the American
southwest or the early evolutionary history of this interesting
dinosaurs, Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods adds more information
to the emerging picture of life in the southwest over 190 million
The new theropod is named _Kayentavenator elysiae_.
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