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Re: New publication: Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods by Robert Gay
I'm not sure why this is would not be considered an electronic
publication. You can order it as a pdf or print copy in any one of
several page sizes (8x10, 6x9). Self publishing pay for print on demand
seems to me to be an electronic activity.
According to the text, they were deposited, but it just doesn't
mention where. However there's another facet to this. If this is going
to be considered an electronic work, then yes, it would need to
mention where the five required copies are deposited, but if it is
considered a print work, it doesn't need this and simply needs to be
freely obtainable, numerous, durable, and identical. Since there is a
print version, naming the libraries may not be an issue.
On 5/6/10 21:36, Dan Chure wrote:
Not meeting one of the requirements is not "a very minor
technicality". Were the 5 hard copies deposited or not? If they
were, what those institutions?
According to the ICZN:
8.1. Criteria to be met. A work must satisfy the following criteria:
8.1.1. it must be issued for the purpose of providing a public and
permanent scientific record,
8.1.2. it must be obtainable, when first issued, free of charge or
by purchase, and
8.1.3. it must have been produced in an edition containing
simultaneously obtainable copies by a method that assures numerous
identical and durable copies.
8.6. Works produced after 1999 by a method that does not employ
printing on paper. For a work produced after 1999 by a method other
than printing on paper to be accepted as published within the
meaning of the Code, it must contain a statement that copies (in the
form in which it is published) have been deposited in at least 5
major publicly accessible libraries which are identified by name in
the work itself.
From Gay, R. 2010.
"Those that are concerned about the naming of a new genus in this
format should not be. The availability and distribution requirements
are more than met—the relevant institutions have received a copy for
their records. In addition "Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods" will
remain available to all who wish to purchase it online, as well as
those stores that chose to carry it, for the foreseeable future—far
surpassing the availability of many other high profile publications
to those anywhere on the globe."
According to this 8.1.1, 8.1.2, and 8.1.3 are all fulfilled. The
only criterion not fulfilled is 8.6, and its due to a very minor
technicality; nowhere in this work are the "5 major publicly
accessible libraries" where the hard copies are deposited named. I
don't think that on-demand self publishing necessarily violates
8.1.3, on some contitions it might be, but a publication service
such as Lulu ensures that multiple individuals can order and obtain
"numerous identical and durable copies" at the same time.
On 5/6/10 18:49, Dan Chure wrote:
I have checked the website and Lulu clearly describes itself as a
"Self Publishing" business and one that publishes on demand. So it
would appear that Kayentavenatoir is not a valid taxon.
Brad McFeeters wrote:
I'm not sure if Rob is a member of this list, but the book seems
to have been published for a few days now, so I'll go ahead and
Summary: Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods contains two papers on
the poorly studied late Triassic and early Jurassic theropod
dinosaur fauna of North America.
The author discusses the evidence that has been used to support
cannibalism hypothesis in the late Triassic dinosaur Coelophysis,
and presents new evidence that disproves this commonly cited
In the second paper, the author names a new genus and species of
theropod dinosaur from the early Jurassic Kayenta Formation of
Arizona. The new taxon represents the oldest yet-known example of
a Tetanuran theropod in North America.
For those interested in the paleontological history of the
American southwest or the early evolutionary history of this
interesting clade of
dinosaurs, Notes on Early Mesozoic Theropods adds more information
to the emerging picture of life in the southwest over 190 million
The new theropod is named _Kayentavenator elysiae_.
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