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Re: Greg Paul is right (again); or "Archie's not a birdy"... but Jeholornis is (not!)
No, Jeholornis isn't a bird. Niether are enantiornithines. None of
them are near the crown. They're just protobirds which better
approximate actual birds as they approach the crown group.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:13 PM, evelyn sobielski <email@example.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the paper David!
> I say: wow. _Jeholornis_? Just: wow. They couldn't get it out of Avialae with
> the taxon set they used, no matter how?
> Now this is starting to look *really* interesting... bearing in mind that it
> is (with Archie removed from Avialae) at least 10-20 Ma past the origin of
> any "pygostylian" lineage. Probably somewhat more, but not outlandishly more
> (perhaps closer to 50 Ma than to 10, but unlikely to be closer to 100 than to
> Provided its position here is correct.
> In any case http://www.springerlink.com/content/wln3pa4ttec4h6td/ is probably
> well worth a re-read now.
> I have the PDF in case anyone needs it.
> And someone who has the data lying around might really want to throw
> _Dalianraptor/Jixiangornis/Yandangornis/Zhongjianornis_, and perhaps
> _Zhongornis_ into that matrix and run it. I suspect if this is done,
> something strange, brilliant or both will happen.
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