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RE: Brrr, bone chilling paleopolar summers(Polar dinosaur growth and other new papers)

  Before we lose ourselves in the war of "you haven't done [X]" it should be 
noted that no sedimentary regime is _ever_ fully sampled, regardless of how 
long it has been sampled. For example, and this one's just off the top of my 
head, the Morrison and Dinosaur Park Formations have been sampled for well over 
a century and are STILL producing essentially new material providing new data 
on otherwise unknown portions of animals. Some of these are new taxa. Some of 
them MAY be new taxa. Claiming that the North Slope has been so well-sampled 
that it cannot be said to produce new material of otherwise unknown 
bradymetabolic or ectothermal animals is to claim that we know everything about 
it that can be known (like how a pachycephalosaur was only very recently named 
from said sediments, cementing the idea that the formational regime is similar 
enough to that in southern Alberta we could surmise other Campanian Albertan 
clades may be known in it).

  So the statement "misleading misstatement" is neither, and it is foolish to 
say it is.


  Jaime A. Headden
  The Bite Stuff (site v2)

"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)

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different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race
has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or
his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion 

> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 18:11:48 -0400
> From: GSP1954@aol.com
> To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> Subject: Re: Brrr, bone chilling paleopolar summers(Polar dinosaur growth and 
> other new papers)
> In a message dated 8/6/11 3:21:10 PM, pristichampsus@yahoo.com writes:
> << I'd bet dollars to donuts that the only reason we haven't found "classic
> reptiles" in the North Slope is because we haven't been looking that hard
> for them.
> >>
> This misleading misstatement is totally wrong, and should not have been
> made especially by someone who is not a "we" who has actually been working
> their butts off fighting the bugs while doing hard core paleo on the North
> Slope. The North Slope sediments have been worked for decades, and the same
> screening techiniques that produce tiny mammals turn up absolutely no herps.
> There is not the slightest evidence they were there.
> New England can support herps because the summers are quite warm and have
> lots of unobscured sunlight. It can get into the 80s and even 90s fairly
> often. Such events would have been very rare at best in the perpetually cloudy
> northern Alaska in the L Cret.
> GSPaul
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