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RE: Plagurism



The image is not mine, regardless of its source from my own work. I never gave 
any such permission, nor do I think I could have. 

Cheers,

Jaime A. Headden
The Bite Stuff (site v2)
http://qilong.wordpress.com/

"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)


"Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a
different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race
has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or
his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion 
Backs)





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> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:45:32 +0100
> Subject: Re: Plagurism
> From: heinrich.mallison@googlemail.com
> To: qi_leong@hotmail.com; dinosaur@usc.edu
>
> Jamie,
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Udanoceratops_skull.svg
>
> this says that the wikipedia version was made with your permission -
> did you not know that wiki images are all licensed for free and even
> commercial use? OBVIOUSLY, that is enough for people.
>
> I understand that you're not happy, but if you really gave permission
> to put this on wikipedia, then please chalk it up as a learning
> experience.
>
> :)
> Heinrich
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jaime Headden  wrote:
> >
> > I'm not particularly happy that _this_ exists:
> >
> >   
> > http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/04/udanoceratops_tschizhovi.php
> >
> >   Based on my original sketch of a finished skull (leaving off the less 
> > complete "what's preserved" sketch which was available at the same time 
> > from an art exhibition website and to which I maintained copyright (an 
> > unauthorized copy can be found here: 
> > http://gigadino.pagesperso-orange.fr/images_dossiers/cera12.JPG)
> >
> >   But it also happens to be the only widely-known illustration of the skull 
> > of *Udanoceratops tschizhovi*, it's available on the internet, and that 
> > seems good enough for many people.
> >
> >   I tend to allow free use (without modification, with attribution) of all 
> > my skeletal diagrams, provided they are "for a scientific purpose," a broad 
> > category that can be construed for a variety of things. But for my diagrams 
> > and illustrations beyond that, I am more picky, and here is where I fail to 
> > receive attribution. Naish (above, first link) correctly notes that the 
> > illustration is based on something I did, something which Naish and I had 
> > discussed years before (I think I showed the original to him at SVP, 
> > although I may be confusing that with someone else), and so some 
> > familiarity allows a person to note when I'm being plagiarized. It's not 
> > the only time I've been plagiarized, I doubt it will be the last, but it's 
> > the most significant.
> >
> >   I lack the means to track down and even attempt to sue the original 
> > modifier/poster (whom I suspect may be Russian -- for the original 
> > appearance of this was on a Russian website, that I know of), and thus my 
> > legal options are limited. But despite that, the illustration has been used 
> > to _promote_ scientific interest, and it _is_ the only skull of the 
> > Nutcracker that I know of, and so Science is forwarded by this act. How 
> > paradoxical.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jaime A. Headden
> > The Bite Stuff (site v2)
> > http://qilong.wordpress.com/
> >
> > "Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)
> >
> >
> > "Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a
> > different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race
> > has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or
> > his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion 
> > Backs)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> >> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:08:34 +0000
> >> From: john.bass@ntlworld.com
> >> To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> >> Subject: Plagurism
> >>
> >> I have not read all of the long and sometimes unpleasant posts on the art
> >> debate, but one thought has occurred to me.
> >>
> >> How would those who have been giving Greg so much abuse like it if somebody
> >> copied their work, particularly if they got it published in a more
> >> prestigious journal than they did?
> >>
> >
> >