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Re: Jack Horner wants dinosaur Uniform Frame of Reference



Cool.  Do you know when we can expect to see the substance?  A video
of the lecture would be great while we await the paper.

-- Mike.



On 12 May 2011 20:59, Denver Fowler <df9465@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I think it's important to point out that this is a press write-up of a 
> detailed
> lecture given in Italy, it is not a press release nor solicited by the Museum 
> of
> the Rockies.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> From: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>
> To: bh480@scn.org
> Cc: dinosaur@usc.edu
> Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 13:47:26
> Subject: Re: Jack Horner wants dinosaur Uniform Frame of Reference
>
> Hmm.  Well, when we see that this UFR actually consists of, we can
> talk about whether it's going to help.  But without any details -- and
> there are none in the article -- it's hard to read this piece as
> anything other than "Horner is more of a lumper than most other
> dinosaur workers and wants other people to lump more, too".
>
> Then there's this quote at the very end:
>
> “The proposals by Horner are very important as a reminder of a problem
> paleontologists are aware of,” [Mike] Benton says, “but we still don’t know
> if it will provide a 100% watertight solution that means we will never
> make mistakes about dinosaur species ever again.”
>
> Oh, I think we do know.  It will NOT provide a 100% watertight
> solution.  Of course it won't.  Come on -- even extant species are
> constantly being lumped and (more often) split.
>
> -- Mike.
>
>
>
>
> -- Mike.
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2011 19:32, bh480@scn.org <bh480@scn.org> wrote:
>> From: Ben Creisler
>> bh480@scn.org
>>
>> Item in new issue of Science magazine:
>>
>> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6031/782.summary
>>
>> Is It Time to Declutter the Dinosaur Roster?
>>
>> Science 13 May 2011:
>> Vol. 332 no. 6031 p. 782
>> DOI: 10.1126/science.332.6031.782
>>
>>
>> With almost 1000 types of dinosaurs on record and a new species being named
>> somewhere in the world every 2 weeks, paleontologist Jack Horner thinks too
>> many supposedly new discoveries are actually duplicates of animals already
>> on the books. Horner wants to set the record straight using a rigorous set
>> of procedures for studying dinosaur fossils that he calls the Unified Frame
>> of Reference (UFR). If implemented worldwide, he says, UFR will eliminate
>> at l
> ing that those animals
>> were actually other known dinosaurs at different stages of growth. Other
>> researchers who have studied the "alias problem" share his concern.
>>
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