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Re: Plateosaurus skull redescribed

that's really odd, because P. erlenbergensis is a junior synonym to P.
engelhardti according to Moser 2003 based on the SACRUM - so the SKULL
alone is not enough to resurrect P. erlenbergensis. There is, btw, no
holo- or lectotype skull to compare to, so you need to deal with the

I can't imagine that the new paper results from a mis- (or
non-)reading of Moser 2003, as is otherwise often the case with German
papers. There is an extensive English summary at the end that states,
among other things:

"Plateosaurus engel­hardti MEYER, 1837 includes the following
subjective  junior synonyms: Dimodosaurus poligniensis,
Gresslyosaurus robus­ tus, Gresslyosaurus torgeri, Pachysaurus ajax,
Pachysaurus gi­ganteus; Pachysaurus magnus, Pachysaurus wetzelianus,
Pla­ teosaurus erlenbergiensis, Plateosaurus longiceps, Plateosaurus
plieningeri, Plateosaurus reinigeri, and Plateosaurus trossin­gensis."

I *really* look forward to reading this one.

Dr. Heinrich Mallison
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM, bh480@scn.org <bh480@scn.org> wrote:
> From: Ben Creisler
> bh480@scn.org
> A new paper available through Bioone. The paper has not been posted yet for
> free on the AMNH site.
> Albert Prieto-Márquez and Mark A. Norell (2011)
> Redescription of a Nearly Complete Skull of Plateosaurus (Dinosauria:
> Sauropodomorpha) from the Late Triassic of Trossingen (Germany).
> American Museum Novitates Number 3727 :1-58. 2011
> doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1206/3727.2
> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1206/3727.2
> The nearly complete, disarticulated skull of AMNH FARB 6810, a specimen of
> the basal sauropodomorph Plateosaurus collected in 1925 from the Norian
> (Late Triassic) strata of the Knollenmergel beds of Trossingen (Germany),
> is redescribed. This study supports referral of AMNH FARB 6810 to P.
> erlenbergiensis on the basis of the following characters: occipital condyle
> above level of parasphenoid; basisphenoid with transverse, subvertical
> lamina extending between basipterygoid processes, with ventrally projecting
> median process; and peglike process projecting medially from the middle of
> the palatine. Furthermore, P. longiceps is regarded a junior synonym of P.
> erlenbergiensis because the type specimen of the latter is diagnostic
> (displaying the above-noted apomorphies of the braincase and palatine) and,
> chronologically, P. erlenbergiensis has priority over P. longiceps.
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