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Re: As the kids say, *facepalm*... [Scanned]



It is possible that the Aquatic Dino story start out that way, then
blew up out of control?

-- Mike.


On 3 April 2012 13:55, Matthew Martyniuk <martyniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Except that the  "sabre toothed lemur" story was an April Fool's joke ;)
>
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:45 AM, darkin <christian@darkin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> hi
>> but I think this is really about the need for scientists to understand how
>> the media works.  Either the "sabre toothed lemur "story or the "first use
>> of fire for cooking" story could easily have taken the place of this story
>> in the popular press.  All three stories were available on the same day, and
>> all three would have been as editorialy attractive to (competent) news
>> organisations.
>>
>> So it really must come down to presentation - scientists with genuinely
>> important stuff to say have something to learn from this.
>>
>> Christian Darkin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Wildman" <m.wildman@cuphosco.co.uk>
>> To: <tholtz@umd.edu>; <dinosaur@usc.edu>; <VRTPALEO@usc.edu>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:34 PM
>> Subject: RE: As the kids say, *facepalm*... [Scanned]
>>
>>
>>
>>> Paul appears to have been remarkably tolerant when confronted by such a
>>> notion - I am not so sure that many other people would have been. It's
>>> interesting that yet another one of these pie-in-the-sky ideas has got the
>>> palaeoworld ablaze again today and is right up there with the kraken story
>>> of 2011. Part of me does not even want to give this guy the time of day but,
>>> at the same time, this suggestion does need to be confronted publicly -  I
>>> will be putting up a brief blog post later to refute this preposterous idea.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-VRTPALEO@usc.edu [mailto:owner-VRTPALEO@usc.edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
>>> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:22
>>> To: dinosaur@usc.edu; VRTPALEO@usc.edu
>>> Subject: As the kids say, *facepalm*... [Scanned]
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/dinosaurs/9182551/Dinosaurs-must-have-lived-in-water-scientist-claims.html#disqus_thread
>>>
>>> "It's not that they could manage to cope with it, or that they swam, or
>>> even that they were submerged; but that they lived in water that supported
>>> their weight."
>>>
>>> The programme declared his theory "so revolutionary it stands the whole
>>> world of palaeontology on its head."
>>>
>>> But Prof Ford's theory has not yet gained credence with fellow scientists,
>>> with an expert from the Natural History Museum claiming a similar theory had
>>> been discussed and largely dismissed up to 100 years ago.
>>>
>>> Dr Paul Barrett said: "Things have moved on quite a lot. I don't think we
>>> will be re-writing the text books just yet."
>>>
>>> --Thank goodness Paul was interviewed as a reality check!
>>>
>>> Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
>>> Email: tholtz@umd.edu Phone: 301-405-4084
>>> Office: Centreville 1216
>>> Senior Lecturer, Vertebrate Paleontology Dept. of Geology, University of
>>> Maryland http://www.geol.umd.edu/~tholtz/
>>> Fax: 301-314-9661
>>>
>>> Faculty Director, Science & Global Change Program, College Park Scholars
>>> http://www.geol.umd.edu/sgc
>>> Fax: 301-314-9843
>>>
>>> Mailing Address: Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
>>> Department of Geology
>>> Building 237, Room 1117
>>> University of Maryland
>>> College Park, MD 20742 USA
>>>
>>
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