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Re: Sauropodz r kewl, but Ornithopod's Rewl WAS: silly conversation

Don't forget the palpebral bone. It makes all ornithopods look real badass!

From: "Barry George" <paleo@ncf.ca> 
To: skeletaldrawing@gmail.com 
Cc: "Dino List" <dinosaur@usc.edu> 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:29:00 AM 
Subject: Re: Sauropodz r kewl, but Ornithopod's Rewl WAS: silly conversation 

You guys are all very old-school... Ornithopods Rule! 

Seriously, yes - prosauropods can rear up in an almost Charles R. Knightly way 
...but the smooth scapulas, hybrid bi-pedal/quadrupedal locomotion mode and 
functionally distinct hips (relative to theropods) give ornithopods that little 
extra elegance... 

...besides, they were also more numerous than everyone else (excepting 
Ceratopsids in NA) 

-Jonas Weselake-George 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Hartman" <skeletaldrawing@gmail.com> 
To: "Dino List" <dinosaur@usc.edu> 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:19:13 AM 
Subject: Re: Sauropodz r kewl WAS: silly conversation on 2012 US presidential 

I think you're all wrong; basal saurischians (especially 
"prosauropods") are the bee's knees. 


On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Michael OSullivan 
<Michael.OSullivan@port.ac.uk> wrote: 
> sorry kids, Ceratopsians are frankly so awesome it's not even funny 
> --- 
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>>>> "Mark Witton"  13/04/12 3:28 PM >>> 
> Mike, 
> If I wasn't working on pterosaurs, I reckon sauropods would be my 
> preferred research subject. Other dinosaurs are interesting and all, but 
> sauropods definitely have an X factor that the others don't. Maybe it's 
> because they seem to be incredibly unlikely beasts. The general bauplans 
> of other dinosaurs seem less out of place compared to our modern fauna. 
> The megatheropods are really just big birds, ornithischians are 
> reptilian variants of modern livestock, but sauropods can't be neatly 
> shoehorned into any modern context. Oh, and they're massive. Come on, 
> admit it: we're all impressed with Big Things. 
> Has there ever been a discussion of 'my favourite dinosaur' on here? 
> It's _the_ dinosaur question most kids are interested in, but we seem to 
> slip away from it towards adulthood. I'll bet every osteologically 
> mature palaeontologist still has a favourite, though. 
> Mark 
> -- 
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>>>> Mike Taylor  4/13/2012 2:05 PM >>> 
> On 13 April 2012 13:49, Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.  wrote: 
>>> From: owner-DINOSAUR@usc.edu [mailto:owner-DINOSAUR@usc.edu] 
>>> On Behalf Of Mark Witton 
>>> I like sauropods, too. I always thought Dicraeosaurus was the 
>>> mutt's nuts. 
>> I'm an old-fashioned guy in this context: I'm an Apatosaurus fan. 
> I have to say it warms my heart to see Scott going with Brachiosaurus, 
> Mark with Dicraeosaurus and now Tom with Apatosaurus.  Truly, three of 
> the most outrageous and beautiful creatures ever to have walked the 
> Earth.  Not just because they're sauropods: but THOSE sauropods in 
> particular.  Only Xenoposeidon and Bronotmerus are more lovely. 
>>> Seconding Scott's point (and those of several others). This 
>>> isn't a forum for discussing politics, so this thread really 
>>> should be put to bed. 
>> Indeed! 
>> In fact, I hear tell that there are places on the Internet where 
> people can actually discuss politics all the time. Maybe instead of 
>> infesting a forum on dinosaurs, the indvidual involved might take it 
> over to one of those... 
> I can only assume that Mickey and Mary are on holiday.  Come back, 
> M&M!  We need you! 
> -- Mike. 

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