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Re: Am I being very simple? A search for a comprehensive description of Velociraptor



Thanks for the detailed replies to my query, chaps. Most appreciated.

Mark

>>> Andrew Farke <afarke@gmail.com> 12/03/2012 21:13 >>>
This is a problem across the board - partly aggravated by the fact
that many journals actively discourage comprehensive illustration or
description (too little space, too expensive for the extra page
charges, etc.). Publications like PLoS ONE and PalArch's JVP are
leading the way in changing that - on-line-only publications remove
many of the limits placed in the past. Of course, we also face the
battle that doing a quality, well-illustrated, comprehensive
description or photo atlas takes a lot of time and may not be as
"interesting" for the powers-that-be who fund grants or hire
scientists.

A parallel situation in hadrosaurs - despite these animals being as
common as dirt (or more common, in some places), the various elements
in feet had never been illustrated comprehensively. Thus, a student
and I put together an atlas of an articulated foot from the Hell Creek
Formation, with full measurements and orthogonal photographs of each
element. Here's hoping more folks follow suit for other taxa!

Rachel Zheng, Andrew A. Farke & Gy-Su Kim. 2011. A Photographic Atlas
of the Pes from a Hadrosaurine Hadrosaurid Dinosaur. – PalArch’s
Journal of Vertebrate Palaeontology 8(7) (2011), 1-12. ISSN 1567-2158.
12 pages + 7 fi gures, 2 tables.

Freely downloadable at:

http://www.palarch.nl/2011/12/rachel-zheng-andrew-a-farke-gy-su-kim-2011-a-photographic-atlas-of-the-pes-from-a-hadrosaurine-hadrosaurid-dinosaur-%E2%80%93-palarch%E2%80%99s-journal-of-vertebrate-palaeontology-87-2011/
 

Andy

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:01 AM, William Parker <saurian55@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is very similar to the situation with Coelophysis bauri. Very
> popular animal represented by numerous skeletons, but no real
> comprehensive useful description.
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Mickey Mortimer
> <mickey_mortimer111@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Best are-
>>
>> Norell and Makovicky, 1997. Important features of the dromaeosaur skeleton:
>>  Information from a new specimen. American Museum Novitates. 3215, 28 pp.
>>
>> Norell and Makovicky, 1999. Important features of the dromaeosaurid skeleton
>>  II: Information from newly collected specimens of Velociraptor mongoliensis.
>>  American Museum Novitates. 3282, 45 pp.
>>
>> There's still no good description of cervicals, anterior dorsals, ribs, 
>> humeri, radii, ulnae or carpals.
>>
>> Mickewy Mortimer
>>
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>> &#62; Date&#58; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16&#58;46&#58;15 &#43;0000&#13;&#10;&#62; 
>> From&#58; Mark.Witton&#64;port.ac.uk&#13;&#10;&#62; To&#58; 
>> dinosaur&#64;usc.edu&#13;&#10;&#62; Subject&#58; Am I being very simple&#63; 
>> A search for a comprehensive description of 
>> Velociraptor&#13;&#10;&#62;&#13;&#10;&#62; Hi 
>> folks,&#13;&#10;&#62;&#13;&#10;&#62; I&#39;ve been searching high and low 
>> for details on the postcranial anatomy&#13;&#10;&#62; for Velociraptor 
>> &#40;mongoliensis ideally&#41;, but can&#39;t find anything 
>> really&#13;&#10;&#62; comprehensive. Is there a good overview of this 
>> material anywhere&#63;&#13;&#10;&#62; Something with a substantial number of 
>> illustrations of actual&#13;&#10;&#62; specimens, not mere lateral 
>> reconstructions&#63; It feels like there should&#13;&#10;&#62; be&#58; the 
>> quality, popularity and completeness of Velociraptor material&#13;&#10;&#62; 
>> seems to make it an ideal candidate for a good osteological 
>> description,&#13;&#10;&#62; but all I can find are very papers dealing with 
>> very specific parts of&#13;&#10;&#62; its 
>> anatomy.&#13;&#10;&#62;&#13;&#10;&#62; Cheers,&#13;&#10;&#62;&#13;&#10;&#62; 
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