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Re: Birds Are Scarier



On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 03:24:54PM -0700, Paul P wrote:
> Okay, i just had to look this up, and as i expected, a single 
> eagle could never bring down an adult grey or timber wolf. 
> However, it's still impressive that two eagles can bring down 
> a coyote or small wolf. Canids have limited range of motion 
> in their forelimbs and blunt, non-retractable claws, putting 
> them at an apparent disadvantage. I doubt an eagle or even a 
> group of them ever brought down a snow leopard (but please, 
> surprise me). 


Is this all professional pride?

This mailing list might be the old people to see this movie

> 
> "Good" short video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TItHEUOXCeI
> 
> Longer video with wolf grabbing one eagle and thrashing it; 
> then a second eagle arrives: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re644qgnCtw
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/11/13, Dann Pigdon <dannj@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > From: Dann Pigdon <dannj@alphalink.com.au>
> > Subject: Re: BIRDS ARE SCARIER
> > To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> > Date: Thursday, April 11, 2013, 12:17 AM
> > On Thu, Apr 11th, 2013 at 1:01 PM,
> > Paul P <turtlecroc@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Those must be some sad, malnourished little wolf runts. No 
> > > eagle on this planet could kill a healthy wolf straight-up. 
> > > 
> > > Perhaps they are using a bunch of eagles..? I admit i haven't 
> > > looked this up yet on youtube.
> > 
> > Prepare to be surprised then. A single adult golden eagle
> > can bring down an adult wolf literally in 
> > seconds. Once the talons are fastened onto the head or
> > throat and driven in deep, the wolf is 
> > history. The wolves know it too - of the many pieces of
> > footage available, the wolf is usually too 
> > concerned about running for its life to attempt to fight
> > back.
> > 
> > There is one piece of footage that shows a wolf attempting
> > to retaliate though. The wolf grabs the 
> > eagle by the wing and thrashes it about. That's when a
> > second eagle arrives and finishes the wolf 
> > off. The first eagle then gets back onto its feet having
> > suffered little apparent damage.
> > 
> > > --- On Wed, 4/10/13, Dann Pigdon <dannj@alphalink.com.au>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Dann Pigdon <dannj@alphalink.com.au>
> > > > Subject: Re: BIRDS ARE SCARIER
> > > > To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> : Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 7:56 PM
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:30 AM,
> > > > Augusto Haro <augustoharo@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I agree that perhaps reptiles are "scarier" than birds for most
> > > > > people. For example, it seems to me that most of us would think of a
> > > > > crocodile or venomous snake as deadlier than an eagle or an ostrich,
> > > > > even if the eagle looks majestic.
> > > > 
> > > > There is plenty of YouTube footage of Mongolians hunting
> > > > wolves using golden eagles. The speed 
> > > > with which the eagles kill the wolves is impressive. The
> > > > wolves are justifiably terrified of the birds. 
> > > > 
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