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Re: Protoceratopsoid tails adapted for swimming

I will have to look carefully at the original paper, which I have not a chance 
to do yet. However, one caution with swimming adaptations is that efficient 
swimming is not merely a matter of moving a flat tail laterally. The manner in 
which the tail moves and transfers momentum to the water is quite important. 
Nearly any big flat tail that has base mobility can be used in swimming if need 
be, but not just any big flat tail is particularly good at it, and therefore 
the range of tail morphologies we would conclude to be specializations for 
swimming are different from the array that can manage.



On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:29 AM, don ohmes <d_ohmes@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thinking like a croc -- these things look a lot like Chicken McNuggets -- I 
> would think size alone would argue against sharing space w/ the crocs of the 
> day.
> Any thought of a defensive / bluff function of the frill would need be 
> abandoned -- and the beak seems incongruous in a river / lake environment.
> Perhaps migratory crossings of water bodies (wildebeest style) were enabled 
> by a sculling function? 
> ------------------------------
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 5:42 AM EST Michael OSullivan wrote:
>> Yes, but that lives in rivers and perfectly adapted to aquatic life.
>> It's not just got tall neural spines.In fact...it doesn't have
>> particularly tall caudal neural spines.
>> On 4 December 2013 23:47, Dann Pigdon <dannj@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 5th, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Michael OSullivan 
>>> <michael.osullivan@port.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> or to live in a desert....yes, I will keep harping on this.
>>> You'd be surprised how many aquatic creatures live in deserts. The West 
>>> African crocodile
>>> (*Crocodylus suchus*) comes to mind.
>>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2002/06/0617_020618_croc.html
>>> --
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