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Re: Kulindapteryx and Daurosaurus, new hypsilophodont ornithopods from Upper Jurassic of Siberia, Russia

I was able to get a hold of the paper. It has an English translation of the 
abstract. It reads:

Two new dinosaurs, Kulindapteryx ukureicagen. et sp. nov. (Jeholosauridae) and 
Daurosaurus olovusgen. et
sp. nov. (Hypsilophodontidae) from the Ukureisk Formation (Tithonian, Upper 
Jurassic) of the Kulinda locality in Transbaikalia (Russia) are described and 
assigned to Ornithopoda (Ornithischia). The origin and homology of the so 
called obturator process of the ischium of Ornithopoda and Theropoda are 
discussed. The families Jeholosauridae and Hypsilophodontidae as well as 
Lesothosauridae are considered to belong to the infraorder Hypsilophodontia 
(Ornithopoda, Ornithischia). It is shown that hypsilophodontians had skin 
scales divided into bristles.

This is also an unrelated paper to the one that Godefroit et al. are working 
on. Apparently some shenanigans have been going on regarding this locality.



"I am impressed by the fact that we know less about many modern [reptile] types 
than we do of many fossil groups." - Alfred S. Romer

----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com>
To: David Černý <david.cerny1@gmail.com>; dinosaur@usc.edu; VRTPALEO@usc.edu
Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kulindapteryx and Daurosaurus, new hypsilophodont ornithopods from 
Upper Jurassic of Siberia, Russia

Ben Creisler

Many thanks to David for correcting this. It does appear that my first
rough translation was likely more accurate. Since I have not read the
paper, I can't be completely sure. I began to have doubts based on the
previous abstracts that discussed the presence of both feather-like
structures and tubercular scales on the small dinosaurs from Kulinda.
I thought I had misread the grammar in the new article abstract since
it sounded odd to say that dermal scales were divided into bristles. I
dragged out some dusty Russian grammar books and tried to parse the
sentence in detail today.

Dlya gipsilofodontii [genitive plural?] ust
ve neuter noun] razdelennykh [genitive plural] na
“shchetinki” [accusative plural] kozhnykh cheshui [genitive plural].

For hypsilophodonts [is]  established  presence of divided into
"bristles" dermal scales.

So maybe something like this is intended:

"Dermal scales divided into 'bristles' are found to be present in

Of course, when the English language translation appears, I could have
egg on my face....

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:58 AM, David Černý <david.cerny1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Maybe something more like?
>> Integument divided into dermal scales and "bristles" is found to be
>> present in hypsilophodonts.
>> Instead of :
>> The existence of dermal scales divided into "bristles" is established
>> for hypsilophodonts
> My Russian isn't great, but I'd say your first interpretation is
> correct. There is no "and" between "kozhnykh cheshui" ("of dermal
> scales") and "razdelennykh na shchetinki" ("divided into bristles").
> Perhaps I'm wrong, though, since your second translation seems to
> correspond more closely to the Godefroit et al. abstract from last
> year's SVP meeting.
> --
> David Černý