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*To*: "dariusnau@gmx.at" <dariusnau@gmx.at>*Subject*: Re: Exact length of Sue*From*: Victoria & Jerrold Alpern <vjalp@mindspring.com>*Date*: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:49:28 -0400*Cc*: dinosaurtom2015@seznam.cz, DML <dinosaur@usc.edu>*In-reply-to*: <553629A4.30702@gmx.at>*References*: <1UC3.3fws0.1PKnfeRMwQF.1LDU0p@seznam.cz> <553629A4.30702@gmx.at>*Reply-to*: vjalp@mindspring.com*Sender*: owner-DINOSAUR@usc.edu

How does the length of FMNH PR 2081 compare to AMNH 5027? Thanks. Sincerely, Jerry Alpern AMNH Tour Guide vjalp@mindspring.com 917-623-1446 On Apr 21, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Darius Nau <dariusnau@gmx.at> wrote: > FMNH PR 2081 seems to be almost exactly 12.3m (40.35feet) long. That is the > length given by Hutchinson et al. (2011), who laser-scanned the skeleton, and > one gets almost the exact same figure when measuring the axial length in > Scott Hartman’s (2013) skeletal reconstruction of the same specimen. > These are probably the most accurate representations of its total length that > are available, and I’m willing to trust them over a museum website any day. > > > As regards intervertebral spacings, they must surely add to the total length, > although how much is a good question. I’m a bit in the dark as to how much > these estimates and reconstructions already account for them tough. > > REFERENCES: > Brochu, Christopher A. (2003): Osteology of Tyrannosaurus rex: Insights from > a Nearly Complete Skeleton and High-Resolution Computed Tomographic Analysis > of the Skull. Memoir (Society of Vertebrate Paleontology), Vol. 7 pp. 1-138 > Hartman, Scott (2013): A T. rex named Sue 3.0. > http://scotthartman.deviantart.com/art/A-T-rex-named-Sue-3-0-124138016 > (accessed 12 April 2015) > Hutchinson, John R.; Bates, Karl T.; Molnar, Julia; Allen, Vivian; Makovicky, > Peter J. (2011): A Computational Analysis of Limb and Body Dimensions in > Tyrannosaurus rex with Implications for Locomotion, Ontogeny, and Growth. > PLoS ONE, Vol. 6 (10) pp. 1-20 > Larson, Peter (2008): Variation and Sexual Dimorphism in Tyrannosaurus rex. > In: Larson, Peter; Carpenter, Kenneth: Tyrannosaurus rex the Tyrant King. > Bloomington pp. 103-128 > > On 2015-04-21 07:29, Poekilopleuron wrote: > >Good day, > > > > >thank you all for your reply to my previous question (I assume Jack >Horner's > >given date of 1903 must be a mistake). I have another question >regarding > >tyrannosaurs - what is the exact length of specimen FMNH 2081 (Sue)? >I've > >seen various values ranging from 12,2 to 12,9 metres (about 41 to 43 >feet), > >which one is correct? Or is it unknown at such a precise manner given >that > >we don't currently understand how wide are intervertebral "gaps" >and/or how > >much would soft tissue add to the actual length of the skeleton? Thank >you > >very much, Tom > > > Yours sincerely, > > Darius Nau > -- > dariusnau@gmx.at > http://www.paleo.keepfree.de

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