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Re: Apatodon in the Bone Wars

Ben Creisler

Many thanks! I found one of the them on a quick search earlier but
didn't have time to download and check to find the other page. So for
people whose internet connection is not that great (my situation sort
of) and can't get the pages to open online, the pdfs to download with
a right click would be:


Meyer's letter:

New York NY Herald 1890 - 0446

Snarky editorial comment:

New York NY Herald 1890 - 0459

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Mary Kirkaldy <mkirkaldy@gmail.com> wrote:
> If no one has replied yet, the articles are in pdfs 446 and 459.
> "Some More Nuts for Marsh to Crack" and "The War of the Professors".
> http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2014/New%20York%20NY%20Herald/New%20York%20NY%20Herald%201890/New%20York%20NY%20Herald%201890%20-%200446.pdf
> http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2014/New%20York%20NY%20Herald/New%20York%20NY%20Herald%201890/New%20York%20NY%20Herald%201890%20-%200459.pdf
> Mary Kirkaldy
> --
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ben Creisler
>> bcreisler@gmail.com
>> Would you happen to know the exact page number in the January 26, 1890
>> issue Meyer's letter appeared on?.
>> There is a pdf archive of the New York Herald on line by individual
>> page, but it's a nightmare to try to navigate. I also found that the
>> pages won't display online, but I can download a single page by
>> right-clicking and using  "save as". The January 26, 1890 issue starts
>> at New York NY Herald 1890 - 0421 and then goes page by page. Oddly,
>> the issue starts with advertising, not news content.
>> The main folder for 1890 can be found here
>> http://fultonhistory.com/my%20photo%20albums/All%20Newspapers/New%20York%20NY%20Herald/New%20York%20NY%20Herald%201890/index.html
>> If someone has the exact page number for the letter I may be able to
>> get the link.
>> The rest of the letters for the Marsh-Cope feud are somewhere in the
>> 1890 archive as well, but without exact page numbers and a little
>> math, it's a real mess.
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Brinkman, Daniel
>> <daniel.brinkman@yale.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi Mickey et al,
>>> It was Otto Meyer's January 26, 1890 letter to the New York Herald, which 
>>> turned out to be the paper's final story about the fossil feud.
>>> Dan
>>> Daniel L. Brinkman
>>> Museum Assistant II
>>> Division of Vertebrate Paleontology
>>> Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History
>>> 170 Whitney Avenue
>>> P.O. Box 208118
>>> New Haven, CT 06520-8118
>>> E-mail: daniel.brinkman@yale.edu
>>> Telephone: (203) 432-3760
>>> Fax: (203) 432-9816
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-VRTPALEO@usc.edu [mailto:owner-VRTPALEO@usc.edu] On Behalf Of 
>>> Mickey Mortimer
>>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 6:34 PM
>>> To: dinosaur@usc.edu; "vrtpaleo@usc.edu"@listproc.usc.edu
>>> Subject: Apatodon in the Bone Wars
>>> Hi everyone.  I've hit a roadblock researching Apatodon and was hoping 
>>> someone could help.  We all know Baur (1890) said he looked at the supposed 
>>> mammal-like jaw of Apatodon and determined it was part of a dinosaur 
>>> vertebra.  But there's another similar story in Shor's 1974 book "The 
>>> fossil feud between E. D. Cope and O. C. Marsh".  According to Google 
>>> Books' preview, on page 213, it's written-
>>> "Professor Marsh has published in the American Journal of Science, 
>>> September, 1877, the description of a very remarkable new mammal, Apatodon 
>>> mirus. I have seen the type specimen, and consider it, in the same way as 
>>> other assistants of Professor Marsh do, not as the jaw of a mammal, but as 
>>> a piece of a vertebrae [sic] of a Dinosaur. Professor Marsh is apparently 
>>> of the same opinion, for in his "list of genera," printed as manuscript, 
>>> Apatodon is enumerated as Dinosaur. The question is only Why has Professor 
>>> Marsh not published corrections to his previous statements? and has he 
>>> recognized himself the true nature of the fossil, or has it been pointed 
>>> out to him? One of his assistants has made to me, and in..."
>>> ... after an account of Marsh hiding Laopteryx from this person because 
>>> they realized it wasn't a bird.  But because of Google Books' limited 
>>> preview function, I can't determine who wrote this or what document it's 
>>> quoting.  I suspect it might be Otto Meyer, but would appreciate it if 
>>> anyone had the book and could check.  Thanks for any help.
>>> Mickey Mortimer
>>> Reference- Shor, 1974. The fossil feud between E. D. Cope and O. C. Marsh. 
>>> Exposition Press. 340 pp.