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Re: [dinosaur] Liaoningosaurus ate fish (!!??)

"After all, finding a gar in the belly of a hadrosaur is not evidence of 
piscivory in duckbills!"

Any large animal that wades in still waters will be presented with 'silt-stunned' fish, floating belly-up, and within easy reach - assuming there are fine sediments there to be disturbed and suspended in the water column, and fish present...

It would be very surprising if all herbivorous dinosaurs habitually ignored these inanimate gifts of protein.

Ingestion could even be accidental, occurring while drinking, or eating aquatic plants - no specialized dental adaptations required...

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On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 9:54, Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
<tholtz@geology.umd.edu> wrote:
This is an interesting hypothesis, but let us not forget the possibility
that the fish in the belly could be post-mortem associations. (After
all, finding a gar in the belly of a hadrosaur is not evidence of
piscivory in duckbills!)

On 2016-08-28 09:46, Brian Lauret wrote:

> I think it is worth mentioning that according to Victoria Arbour, who
> researches ankylosaurs, Little L's plastron is actually misidentified
> belly scales (see https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__pseudoplocephalus.com_2014_04_02_scaling-2Dup_&d=DQICAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=ls3_qEyVOCCJjjGHPq-2jZenRkmxvhyvYrseiF2u8eI&s=k3Pduly9AngRzJfsGQ8IL68PPrWDNLQZxYaP3R2QK0Y&e=
> [2]). I have no opinion on the matter.

Arbor provides a close up photo of the supposed armor on that link. Note
that it is NOT like the plastron of a turtle or the belly armor of some
placodonts. I strongly suspect that she is correct. (And this probably
IS the case of the remarkable preservation you refer to in the next

> Lastly and most out there, an aquatic _Liaoningosaurus_ might also be
> an alternative explanation for its lack of preserved integument if
> this was actually a derived, naked-bodied ornithischian that had lost
> all integument because of adapting said lifestyle. Does the critter
> hail from rocks that preserve soft tissue impressions, most notably
> feathers, or is this a moot suggestion of mine anyway?

It is from the Yixian, but keep in mind that preservation in any
unit--even across the same bedding plane on a meter-scale--can be
radically different. (These sites are remarkable because they CAN
preserve fine details, not because they MUST preserve them. :-) ).

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