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Re: [dinosaur] Problems with blocked or delayed posts to the DML

Ben Creisler

Since this message, which showed up yesterday, actually took 6 days to post on the DML (sent on May 4), I'm not sure if a suggested 24-hour wait makes sense. There appear to be different issues that have caused posts to be blocked completely (usually spam filter issues at the DML end) or to be delayed for days (probably gmail issues).

The good news is that the Cleveland Museum of Natural History archive is back up and working for the month of May at:


I have been contacted by a number of people who check the DML archive for new papers and news, and were concerned. 

As noted earlier, the DML has another archive and a live-feed at:


For now, I think I will still try to resend blocked posts after 20 minutes or more when they happen. Apologies for multiple repostings that sometimes happen. There are many cases in the which the original posts never shows up, so it's hard to predict is a post has been blocked or only delayed. I can hope that the information is what counts and reposts because of technical problems are an occasional annoyance that people will excuse.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Jura <pristichampsus@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think holding off for a day is the best course of action. Many of your e-mails seem to eventually make it to the DML within 24 hours.

It's too bad the new list serv didn't fix this problem.

http://reptilis.net "I am impressed by the fact that we know less about many modern [reptile] types than we do of many fossil groups." - Alfred S. Romer

From: Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com>
To: dinosaur-l@usc.edu
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: [dinosaur] Problems with blocked or delayed posts to the DML

Ben Creisler

My apologies for the multiple posts yesterday, which all showed up long after I had sent them through gmail. Unfortunately, a similar problem seems to be happening today. I have sent two posts well over 30 minutes ago that have yet to show up in my yahoo.com email account and in the gmane dinosaur blog live feed at http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.science.dinosaurs.general..

The blocked or missing posts seem to involve two different issues--the DML spam filters and my gmail account.

The DML spam filters block posts that contain various words and phrases with no regard for context. I have had to reword posts (even using misspellings) to get through. As a rule, earlier versions that are blocked do not show up.

The gmail problem is harder to explain and was apparently the source of the problems yesterday that caused me to send near duplicate posts that eventually DID show up.

Again, my intention is not to flood mailboxes with duplicate emails. I hope posting new refs and news will be useful to people, so there is a reason to try again when posts apparently don't get through. However, the obscure technical problems that block posts mean that my resends sometimes will cause multiple postings.

I'm holding off resending the new paper posts that have been blocked today to see if gmail will come through at some point.