Thomas Richard Holtz <email@example.com> wrote:
> In a related point, if Pisanosaurus does prove to belong in a clade with
> Silesaurus, Asilisaurus, and co., but not dinosaurs, a strict reading of the
> rules means this family should be Pisanosauridae (which has a 30-some year
> priority over Silesauridae).
According to ICZN Article 13.1.1., for a new taxon to be valid, "it
must be accompanied by a description or definition that states in
words characters that are purported to differentiate the taxon".
(This is why Lewisuchidae can be quashed in favor of Silesauridae;
even though Lewisuchidae [as Lewisuchinae] was named 22 years before
Silesauridae, it never received a formal description or diagnosis.)
Even after reading the description of _Pisanosaurus_ (a translated
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certain Pisanosauridae conforms to Article 13.1.1. _Pisanosaurus_
received a description, and Pisanosauridae is erected as part of this
description... so the unique anatomical characters that distinguished
_Pisanosaurus_ from the remaining ornithischians also distinguished
Pisanosauridae at the same time.. so I guess it's okay. As you know,
Agnolin and Rozadilla note that their referral of _Pisanosaurus_ to
Silesauridae is not particularly secure (though superior to regarding
it as a basal ornithischian), which is a good reason for retaining
Silesauridae over Pisanosauridae. (The authors also invoke ICZN
Article 126.96.36.199, but I don't think that applies, given that
Silesauridae was named less than 10 years ago).
David Marjanovic <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > Tyrannosauridae should certainly have preference over Deinodontidae.
> Of course. If you'll write a petition to the Commission, I'll join it.
We shouldn't need to. ICZN Article 188.8.131.52 should mean
Tyrannosauridae can still be used in preference to Deinodontidae.
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