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Re: [dinosaur] reference request



so this reference has been wrong for quite a few years since it is also
in Felsenstein.  The abstract itself doesn't give a spefic source for a
publication other than  the lab

THE RECONSTRUCTION OF EVOLUTION
A. W. F. EDWARDS and L. L. CAVALLI-SFORZA
International Laboratory of Genetics and Biophysics, Naples,
Pavia Section: Instituto di Genetica, Unlversita di Pavia

Darwin's theory of evolution invites us to believe that closely similar
species are closely related. In cases in which there is no fossil record,
or other means of following evolutionary history, this concept provides
the only means of drawing inferences about the course of evolution, and
it is important to see whether it can be defined sufficiently precisely
to be used for estimating the most likely form of an evolutionary tree
solely from data on the similarities and differences between species. A
detailed consideration of this problem leads to the conclusion that the
following principle may be employed: THE PRINCIPLE 01' MINIMUM EVOLUTION
The most plausible estimate of the evolutionary tree is that which invokes
the minimum nett amount of evolution.  This principle will be discussed,
the system of estimation to which it leads expounded, and some examples
of its application given

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 01:50:36PM -0800, Ben Creisler wrote:
> Ben Creisler
> bcreisler@gmail.com
> 
> Apparently it is only an abstract. The citation later given by Edwards, one
> of the authors has different page numbers:
> 
> See:
> A. W. F. Edwards (2009). Statistical Methods for Evolutionary Trees
> Genetics. 2009 Sep; 183(1): 5–12.
> doi:  10.1534/genetics.109.107847
> Free article:
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> 
> 
> 
> Cited as
> 
> Edwards, A. W. F., and L. L. Cavalli-Sforza, 1963. The reconstruction of
> evolution. (Abstr.) Heredity 18: 553, and Annals of Human Genetics 27,
> 104–105.
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__onlinelibrary.wiley.com_doi_10.1111_ahg.1963.27.issue-2D1_issuetoc&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=_RG7ECbP-a9NrY_GsmXzHOI3a9-aSDA_F3C1lS9yjtE&s=7xV8JdgW6YVWXZCaEThaoMZorzh6bK7Ma93PS0hrvgQ&e=
>  
> 
> **
> 
> The abstracts from the  1963 issue journal Heredity are available for free
> here. Apparently the text would be the same.
> 
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nature.com_hdy_journal_v18_n4_pdf_hdy196366a.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=_RG7ECbP-a9NrY_GsmXzHOI3a9-aSDA_F3C1lS9yjtE&s=XyOwB5JlACretyI4UsE2sDX99kJXEgHuApA7obmtuvg&e=
>  
> 
> 
> Here's a full article version in pdf form from 1964:
> 
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.faculty.biol.ttu.edu_Strauss_Phylogenetics_Readings_EdwardsCavalliSforza1964.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=_RG7ECbP-a9NrY_GsmXzHOI3a9-aSDA_F3C1lS9yjtE&s=0AX7gsLf8pnZJeJ2rtg0mpjknv8LMiGYHZKaa-e39b0&e=
>  
> 
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Ruben Safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have access to this exact article.  I can't seem to find it
> > and it is in bibliography of Felsenstein.
> >
> > Edwards, A.W.F, Cavalli-Sforza, L.L. (1963). The reconstruction of
> > evolution. Ann. Hum. Genet. 27: 105–106.
> >
> > Can't find it anywhere - even in worldcat.  Wiley says those pages don't
> > exist in Annuals of Human Genetics
> >
> >
> >
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